From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>
Cc: Phillip Lord <phillip.lord@russet.org.uk>,
20202@debbugs.gnu.org, 20484@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs'
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2016 12:51:51 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvd1q1tlia.fsf-monnier+bug#20484@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <57067BF6.6000700@cs.ucla.edu> (Paul Eggert's message of "Thu, 7 Apr 2016 08:25:42 -0700")
>> I can think of several possibilities. In particular, the EMACS=t behaviour
>> of bash should also be replicable with bash -o emacs.
> I expect that this problem affects programs other than bash. For example,
> tcsh 6.19.00 (the latest version of the first other shell that I checked)
> tests whether EMACS is "t".
It's not clear to me what "affects" means here.
The problem explicitly reported in 20484 is that directory tracking is
"turned off". This doesn't sound particularly terrible (as long as
there's an easy way to get back the desired directory tracking).
So I think to make an informed decision, we first need to figure out *how*
all those shells are affected by having $EMACS be set to something else
than "t".
Maybe the best solution is to stop messing with $EMACS by default (and
hence change the behavior of sub-shells in negative ways for some
users), and then provide an easy way for those users to get back the
"fully featured" sub-shell they love.
Stefan
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2016-04-07 14:57 ` bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Paul Eggert
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2016-04-07 15:01 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 15:18 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 15:25 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 16:01 ` Glenn Morris
2016-04-07 16:07 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 16:26 ` bug#20484: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-07 19:55 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 22:20 ` bug#20484: " Stefan Monnier
2016-04-08 7:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 13:09 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 20:50 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-08 21:20 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 7:03 ` bug#20484: " Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 7:34 ` Andreas Schwab
2016-04-08 13:12 ` bug#20484: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 21:42 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 7:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 16:49 ` bug#20202: " Stefan Monnier
2016-04-08 18:12 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-07 16:51 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2016-04-07 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-07 18:58 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-07 19:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-07 22:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-08 7:00 ` bug#20202: " Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 15:32 ` Glenn Morris
2016-04-08 15:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-05-01 23:36 ` bug#20484: 25.0.50; Directory tracking in ansi-term broken Jacob Oursland
2015-05-02 2:17 ` Glenn Morris
2015-05-02 2:43 ` Glenn Morris
2015-05-02 19:33 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-03 5:45 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-03 6:15 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-03 16:29 ` Richard Stallman
2015-05-03 17:36 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-04 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-05-04 16:15 ` Richard Stallman
2015-05-03 17:57 ` Glenn Morris
2015-05-03 19:09 ` Jacob Oursland
2015-05-04 2:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-03-23 22:15 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-08 18:47 ` bug#20484: Bash 4.4-rc1 incompatibility with future Emacs $EMACS Paul Eggert
2016-04-09 2:24 ` bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Glenn Morris
2016-04-09 8:43 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-09 13:43 ` bug#20202: " Stefan Monnier
2016-04-09 21:56 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-09 23:40 ` bug#20202: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-10 0:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-10 3:30 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-10 13:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-11 5:50 ` bug#20202: " Paul Eggert
2016-04-10 8:26 ` bug#20484: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 13:59 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-11 12:32 ` bug#20484: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 8:25 ` Phillip Lord
2015-03-25 21:44 ` bug#20202: 24.3; Comint mode sets a bad $EMACS Eli Barzilay
2015-03-26 0:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2015-03-28 15:27 ` Eli Barzilay
2015-04-09 15:02 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-10 12:18 ` bug#20202: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Markus Triska
2016-04-11 12:38 ` Phillip Lord
2018-05-24 20:46 ` bug#20202: EMACS=t Joy and Happiness Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 7:13 ` bug#20202: bug#20484: bug#20202: Considered Harmful 73d213: 'Comint, term, and compile new set Emacs' Michael Albinus
2016-04-10 8:51 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-10 9:31 ` Michael Albinus
2016-04-08 16:46 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-04-08 17:12 ` Paul Eggert
2016-04-08 18:14 ` bug#20202: " Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 17:47 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 13:15 ` Phillip Lord
2016-04-08 13:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-04-08 15:45 ` bug#20202: " Glenn Morris
2016-04-08 16:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
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