From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#31397: 27.0.50; Emacs doesn't call package-initialize if there's no elpa directory Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:12:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87o9gyd6hp.fsf@gmail.com> <87fu2acchi.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.org; posting-host="ciao.gmane.org:195.159.176.228"; logging-data="93989"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.org" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 31397@debbugs.gnu.org, radon.neon@gmail.com, npostavs@gmail.com To: Zachary Kanfer Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 23 00:23:39 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5OI-000OAk-GF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2019 00:23:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52106 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5OH-0003hG-76 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:23:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:58274) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5Ly-0001w9-LS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:21:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5E6-0000Y7-Pq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:13:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:42502) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5E6-0000Xy-M7 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:13:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5E6-0008JL-Gl for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:13:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:13:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 31397 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 31397-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B31397.154819873131864 (code B ref 31397); Tue, 22 Jan 2019 23:13:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 31397) by debbugs.gnu.org; 22 Jan 2019 23:12:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41783 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5DH-0008Hs-H8 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:12:11 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:55028) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1gm5DG-0008Hk-I0 for 31397@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:12:10 -0500 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.7/8.14.1) with ESMTP id x0MNC9gv018647; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:12:09 -0500 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5C650AE6E4; Tue, 22 Jan 2019 18:12:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Zachary Kanfer's message of "Mon, 6 Aug 2018 19:41:18 -0400") X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered EDT_SA_DN_PASS=0, RV6466=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9418 : core <6466> : inlines <6998> : streams <1810861> : uri <2784075> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:154686 Archived-At: > I'm circling back around to this; I think that that change makes a lot of > sense. I installed an alternative patch which doesn't fully initialize package, but does make package-installed-p work even if package-initialize hasn't been called yet. > What other functions would need to call package-initialize, if it hasn't > been called? Good question. I hope the answer is none, and I think if we find one, we should change it so it initializes the relevant vars automatically. Stefan