From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14447: tramp-gvfs.el and xesam.el sometime fail to load Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 09:35:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8761yacbk7.fsf@gmx.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1369316199 19232 80.91.229.3 (23 May 2013 13:36:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 13:36:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 14447@debbugs.gnu.org To: Michael Albinus Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu May 23 15:36:35 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVh5-00066b-CV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 15:36:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51702 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVh4-0004wh-4P for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:36:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:33050) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVgv-0004tE-Sz for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:36:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVgt-0007Ze-VO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:36:25 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41249) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVgt-0007ZR-Sx for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:36:23 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVhg-0003S2-Qf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:37:13 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 13:37:12 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 14447 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 14447-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B14447.136931621613235 (code B ref 14447); Thu, 23 May 2013 13:37:12 +0000 Original-Received: (at 14447) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 May 2013 13:36:56 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57840 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVhN-0003RM-Mb for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:36:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:38476) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UfVhD-0003R1-Lv for 14447@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:36:45 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZoF/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFFpZoF/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="14213000" Original-Received: from 69-165-154-5.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.154.5]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 23 May 2013 09:35:42 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 0F1786EC2B; Thu, 23 May 2013 09:35:47 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <8761yacbk7.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Thu, 23 May 2013 11:03:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:74484 Archived-At: >> It ought to always be possible to load lisp libraries. > I've wrapped the call of `dbus-get-unique-name' by > `ignore-errors'. tramp-gvfs.el returns now the user error "Package > `tramp-gvfs' not supported", which is intended. Not good enough: as Glenn wrote "It ought to always be possible to load lisp libraries". They may be loaded for all kinds of reasons that have nothing to do with using that library. > xesam.el is obsolete (the XESAM interface is not used anymore by search > engines). Shouldn't we move xesam.el to "obsolete/"? Feel free to do it (but even in obsolete/, it should be always possible to load this library). Stefan