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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: 59057@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#59057: Emacs 29. Byte compiler sometimes forgets about a defvar.
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2022 16:29:15 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwvbkpiv4qh.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y2lohC66d/uSi5oz@ACM> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Mon, 7 Nov 2022 20:20:20 +0000")

>> (defvar VAR) does not "create a variable".
>
> According to both its doc string and the Elisp manual it does.

Where?  I'm talking specifically about (defvar VAR) not about
`defvar` in general.

>> It just "locally" declares that this identifier should use dynamic
>> scoping when binding a variable.
> Why "locally"?  There's just one obarray involved, which is global.

No, we want to allow `defvar` to have a lexically-local effect.

>> But the better way to write the above code is:
>
>>     (defmacro acm-defvar (var)
>>       `(progn
>>          (defvar ,var)
>>          (eval-when-compile
>>            (when (version-check)
>>              (setq ,var emacs-major-version)))))
>
> There are workarounds, yes.  But surely it would be better to fix the
> bug.

It's not a workaround.  It's how the programmers say whether they want
the (defvar ,var) declaration to affect all the rest of the code or only
the code within the `when`.

Why put the (defvar ,var) within the `when` if not to limit
its scope?


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-07 21:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-05 18:46 bug#59057: Emacs 29. Byte compiler sometimes forgets about a defvar Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-07 13:07 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-07 20:20   ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-07 21:29     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-11-08 11:01       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-08 14:12         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-07 21:31     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-09 13:40       ` Alan Mackenzie
2022-11-09 17:54         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-24 19:29           ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-24 19:33             ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-11-24 20:36             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-11-24 21:12               ` Stefan Kangas
2022-11-25 10:36                 ` Alan Mackenzie

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