From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9243: 24.0.50; Gnus keeps seeing 101 unread spam Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:05:09 -0500 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325898334 10545 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 01:05:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 01:05:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9243@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 02:05:28 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKiu-0002pP-K0 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 02:05:28 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47976 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKiu-0004mG-2I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:05:28 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52767) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKiq-0004lv-RD for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:05:25 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKip-0007j2-Kj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:05:24 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:39723) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKip-0007iy-Hu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:05:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKmL-00031K-Hr; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:09:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:09:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9243 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9243-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9243.132589853211584 (code B ref 9243); Sat, 07 Jan 2012 01:09:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9243) by debbugs.gnu.org; 7 Jan 2012 01:08:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKmC-00030m-Eq for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:08:52 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RjKm9-00030a-Of for 9243@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:08:50 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAHGYB09FxKkV/2dsb2JhbABErEKBBoFyAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiA22FYwRBIg5mk+EUg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.71,471,1320642000"; d="scan'208";a="155597275" Original-Received: from 69-196-169-21.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([69.196.169.21]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 06 Jan 2012 20:05:10 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E7AAC66110; Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:05:09 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Sat, 07 Jan 2012 00:38:50 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2012 20:09:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:55455 Archived-At: > Is there anything in particular one does to make the Agent misbehave? I wish I knew. I see various occasional problems, but I don't know how to reproduce them. Just for information, here's the kind of problems I see: - seen messages re-appearing as unseen (presumably because the imap connection died during the "group exit"). - old&seen messages that refuse to appear (they don't show up in the Summary, tho if I disable the Agent and try again, they show up just fine). - different independent machines have different ideas about the number of unseen messages in a given IMAP folder. - not sure if it's related, but exiting a group/folder takes forever (apparently because I ask Gnus to do expiration at that time). - not sure if it's related, but "B m" to move stuff from a group/folder to another takes *ages* (as in several minutes), and I think most of this time is spent in Gnus trying to update its idea of the content of the destination group (after the actual move took place). I've already been tempted to setup offlineimap to work around these problems (after all, having a complete local copy of my mailbox(es) would be great), but I keep hoping that it will get fixed soon. Stefan