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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Michael Albinus <michael.albinus@gmx.de>
Cc: Le Wang <l26wang@gmail.com>, 17361@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#17361: Tramp does not save history across sessions.
Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2014 18:08:21 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwva9b3re8j.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871twf96ch.fsf@gmx.de> (Michael Albinus's message of "Tue, 29 Apr 2014 23:24:46 +0200")

>> The only default that's backward compatible would be :override, which
>> basically defeats the purpose.
> In practice, your proposal means to throw away `set-process-sentinel'
> (and `set-process-filter').

[ Of course, only on the surface, since these are the low-level accessors
  used by add-function.  ]

> Since the default functions are already enabled, in most cases one
> shall use `add-function' instead.

There is a real problem with the default filter/sentinel, indeed.
Basically, add-function is a mechanism that allows combining functions
onto a "single function spot", so it provides the tool we need.

But another problem remains: for historical reasons (and for
convenience), the default filters/sentinels don't "do nothing".  So in
many cases packages want to *replace* the default rather than extend it.
`set-process-filter' works well for those, until another package comes
along which needs to interact with it.  Saying "use add-function"
doesn't really solve this problem, because we'll just replace

  (set-process-filter PROC FUN)
with
  (add-function :override (process-filter PROC) FUN)

which, just like set-process-filter, will override not just the default
filter but other filters added via add-function as well.

I haven't thought about how to really solve this problem.  I'm open
to suggestions.

> (I don't oppose completely, I just want that we understand and agree
> such a change.)

I don't have a good answer yet, sorry.


        Stefan





  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-29 22:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-28 13:16 bug#17361: Tramp does not save history across sessions Le Wang
2014-04-28 13:45 ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-28 15:09   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-28 18:01     ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-29  4:19       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-29  7:32         ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-29  7:39           ` Daimrod
2014-04-29  7:59             ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-29  8:34               ` Daimrod
2014-04-29 13:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-29 13:42           ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-29 13:52             ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-29 14:30               ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-29 14:42                 ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-29 15:33                   ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-29 18:09                     ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-29 19:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2014-04-29 21:24                         ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-29 22:08                           ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2014-05-29 16:21                             ` Glenn Morris
2014-04-28 15:26   ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-28 18:05     ` Michael Albinus
2014-04-28 18:15       ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-04-28 20:20         ` Stefan Monnier
2021-10-10 23:01   ` Stefan Kangas
2021-10-11 15:41     ` Michael Albinus

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