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From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: "Mattias Engdegård" <mattiase@acm.org>,
	ture@turepalsson.se, 41445@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#41445: 26.3; Query-replace triggers "match data clobbered by..."
Date: Sat, 23 May 2020 09:36:03 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwva71yls1p.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83tv06zvgl.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 23 May 2020 15:28:42 +0300")

>> > The advantage of not doing this unconditionally is that we don't
>> > unnecessarily punishing callers that don't need match-data to be
>> > saved.
>> 
>> For callers of the ucs-normalize- functions, correctness should come
>> first; their names, semantics or descriptions do not lead the user to
>> suspect them of clobbering the match data. It is an implementation leakage
>> which can be quite unexpected, as is witnessed by this bug.
>
> I thought we had some advice to Lisp programs not to assume that
> match-data will be preserved, but maybe I'm misremembering.  Stefan,
> do you remember something along these lines?

Right, we follow a convention where, by default, any function can
clobber the match-data, with just some exceptions (typically,
small/trivial functions).

From that point of view, I see no reason why ucs-normalize-* should be
careful to preserve the match data.

This said, *if* it is the case that many/most calls to a given function
need to preserve the match-data around calls to it, it's of course
OK to simply move the match-data-saving into that function, especially
if that function's work dwarfs that of save-match-data.

I just added the following to `save-match-data`'s docstring, to try and
clarify:

    NOTE: The convention in Elisp is that any function, except for a few
    exceptions like car/assoc/+/goto-char, can clobber the match data,
    so `save-match-data' should normally be used to save *your* match
    data rather than your caller's match data.


-- Stefan






  parent reply	other threads:[~2020-05-23 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-05-22  5:07 bug#41445: 26.3; Query-replace triggers "match data clobbered by..." Ture Pålsson
2020-05-22 10:46 ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-22 11:11   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 11:16     ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-22 12:07       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-22 12:21         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-22 12:35           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 11:36         ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-23 12:28           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 12:37             ` Philipp Stephani
2020-05-23 13:07               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-23 13:08               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-23 13:36             ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2020-05-23 15:43               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-27 14:31               ` Mattias Engdegård
2020-05-27 15:54                 ` Eli Zaretskii

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