From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.orgmode Subject: bug#59882: Multiple versions of Org in load-path problem Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:17:22 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87tu27jq7h.fsf@localhost> <87k032nyok.fsf@localhost> <39a5810d-75bc-4ddb-8722-703f762ed4de@app.fastmail.com> <835yel11x8.fsf@gnu.org> <87edt2qpoa.fsf@localhost> <83359innsp.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmcmt8cc.fsf@localhost> <3bf2e057-4204-cdc8-0847-39a723db4fc8@gmail.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="24711"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Ihor Radchenko , emacs-orgmode@gnu.org, Eli Zaretskii , 59882@debbugs.gnu.org To: Max Nikulin Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 15 05:18:21 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1p5fhM-0006GY-6O for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=oXEokMbHC5uifrmBZP7jrhbP6pqPhiYN0lAORF/N7IwcNvkUqkG7RKMx62UiwdFFP Nlk2EmCQ6Px1UkzV8jV1jPwff8HWoWVdJvptpQjH8+C/NZa3S6V/wtDzww3a4rr18O 6LyB0PC434YE9O3RGEOf+bf0QjdHwx2kvuaho86jXq7Nzdm5fqibjna6AqHNRaHMUP PmNAmvX4BoiCQHL/zUg32kGUAwZW29E7+AVi3PEKPORwLrMFx/PjJ1Qe/qKNo/JVfL cFncilFEXL9WSfJOhS8w5GHz1Ac7HFDkippYTy8gl5TbgzAzXa20zSXL1S/tj1w/pW MzKm8sR8NukKg== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [45.72.193.52]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9F42012019B; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:17:30 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <3bf2e057-4204-cdc8-0847-39a723db4fc8@gmail.com> (Max Nikulin's message of "Wed, 14 Dec 2022 23:02:53 +0700") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:251020 gmane.emacs.orgmode:151422 Archived-At: Max Nikulin [2022-12-14 23:02:53] wrote: > On 14/12/2022 21:35, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>> Like I said in another message that I sent just before receiving yours >>> my conclusion came from the fact that hitting 'C-h v' with the cursor >>> on 'org-goto-interface' provided nothing. It was the first time this >>> ever happened to me. I did try to explicitly enter the variable's >>> name by entering 'org-goto', which (like 'org-go') is not >>> enough: it is completed to 'org--goto'. >> AFAICT this is a missing feature: we obey `help-enable-autoload` in >> `describe-function` but we fail to do the same autoloading dance in >> `describe-variable`. > > I think, the difference is interactive vs. non-interactive calls rather than > `describe-function' vs. `describe-variable'. What misses this feature is > `customize-variable'. > > Completion failure for "org-to" happened because result of > `register-definition-prefixes' calls is not considered as options. I am > aware that it may give false positives, but I still believe they should > be added. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you're saying. > Though I believe that org mixed version issue happens due to transitional > dependency of some third party package on org or something like (require > 'org-protocol) that can not be loaded on demand. Hmm... indeed the "Subject:" talks about mixed versions, yet I was discussing something not directly related. Looks like I got off-topic somewhere along the way without noticing, sorry. Stefan