From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#64584: 29.0.91; skeleton: cannot pass `str' as argument to some functions Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:02 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y1jloyao.fsf@gmail.com> <87fs3klos4.fsf@gmail.com> <87bke8kthy.fsf@gmail.com> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21694"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: 64584@debbugs.gnu.org To: Visuwesh Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 12 05:07:11 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qftk6-0005Rz-VQ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 12 Sep 2023 05:07:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qftju-0000U0-LJ; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:58 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qftjt-0000TT-Is for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:57 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qftjt-0002Bz-Am for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qftjx-00051r-Lv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:07:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2023 03:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 64584 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 64584-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B64584.169448797719277 (code B ref 64584); Tue, 12 Sep 2023 03:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 64584) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Sep 2023 03:06:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55562 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qftjF-00050r-7v for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:2771) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qftjC-00050d-Lp for 64584@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:15 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 590488071E; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:04 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1694487963; bh=PBXXMGiy6j6UhIX8+/2sD6Bx9eUEUj47aPUYIZoraXc=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=UsAky8A3GzS7Kx7tuh/v+TEjK4yM4mAk+vQ/1HUxuZ9Uggf0FJMiOL4Gc0FsQlmx8 ACaF3YtAALmrgMJGKipvprxx6KnAPjmdXUZHafb7bYP4i72fWOCo3cdIYY9gKl057s n+S44XfKnqLK/8BOmze34I6i8onIWNNQw9lIeZFEMHRtONA91UKYtpcr4YolQXhg3w JoHZLZXxKyMrn52Wc+sgutTtrYnPYXNCO6hkgvK3L7cL5lGKVoMw+EGAu/5G8XQYWK Rjg0Q+XnumiHL67OYrPbV08RBZ2BTaBko2VqAG/ZQBJXTovCYRTO5yIIastbZFa5Is Itez6V3JPtHMg== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0A38280283; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:03 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [104.247.229.91]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D3B2912022A; Mon, 11 Sep 2023 23:06:02 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <87bke8kthy.fsf@gmail.com> (Visuwesh's message of "Tue, 12 Sep 2023 08:06:25 +0530") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:270133 Archived-At: > I can do > > (define-skeleton test > "" > (read-file-name "p: ") > (shell-quote-argument (eval str))) Eww... please don't! This relies on an internal detail about how `str` is implemented. >>> AFAIU, using 'str should prevent the insertion of the value but that >>> signals the same error. >> Sorry, I don't know what you mean by that. > I meant this part in skeleton-insert's docstring > > Quoted Lisp expressions are evaluated for their side-effects. Ah, I see. Yes, using 'str should basically have no effect. >>> I tried (progn str (shell-quote-argument str)) >>> instead but the same error again. >> Of course: any use `str` within an actual expression (as opposed to >> using it as a skeleton element) will work reliably only if that occurs >> after a use of `str` as a skeleton element. > Thanks for your patience and help. We should try and improve the docs to clarify this confusing situation. If you have suggestions for how/where we could make changes that would have effectively discouraged you from trying to use `str` in that way, I'd be happy to hear them. Stefan