From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#52969: Shortdoc "string" group leads to backtrace Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 16:05:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87ee5o4ktl.fsf@gnus.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3564"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 52969@debbugs.gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 03 22:06:12 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1n4UWx-0000iB-Mb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=NGQ8VS4Mq/UjMva9GWAcvUqeSj2X7gmoKGo9EYQT4DWEZXmXiaMhpeC72B6SNw2Qv w/RgPW9kEqhSCTDJ8SwmPBFWXL8TViLQvslVvyMyzD+az8QSlSuNLFpckh+54TsWwF 9ivksuF7xZFSnO+ykG0UwtbjnpWpiA3FSdMjHWVQkcaexyE9E60PJJmnIvbpVVrqBl obQAsRYmF1KlaVQWqrhPr2N2pVeXC8hHK3pUY8tDrv16C2w///+tWA9WLJYB1hgrXJ /WOuFdeTt+yp0MclG9bl0e2li5jjGOEAlgkhRzzp425IDlxWKyosG3v9ynXQZsU/Ra AnnRQMRNDlosQ== Original-Received: from ceviche (unknown [216.154.30.173]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F0A2B120225; Mon, 3 Jan 2022 16:05:12 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87ee5o4ktl.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Mon, 03 Jan 2022 21:37:42 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:223605 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen [2022-01-03 21:37:42] wrote: > Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of > text editors" writes: >> 1- Forget about autoloads's docstrings altogether (i.e. always load the >> autoload's target when we need the docstring). >> 2- Revert part of 59732a83c8 so that we still keep the docstrings of >> `lisp/loaddefs.el` in etc/DOC. >> 3- Byte-compile `lisp/loaddefs.el`. >> I pushed a patch which does n=B02. > Are there any disadvantages to doing n=B03? > I liked the simplifications in 59732a83c8. I haven't tried yet. I installed n=B02 because it's the "safe choice". We can still choose n=B03 and/or n=B01 which both have a wider impact. I liked the simplifications in 59732a83c8 as well, and we do keep some of them. As for disadvantages to n=B03, I remember trying it out some months ago but I can't remember why nor can I remember why I haven't kept this change in my local hacks. Sorry. IOW, someone will have to try it. Of course, there are the obvious disadvantages of spending time to compile `loaddefs.el` and the added space used by `loaddefs.elc`, tho a lot of it would be recovered by the space saved in etc/DOC. Stefan