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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>
Cc: 67249@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#67249: 30.0.50; `same-frame` equivalent for `display-buffer-alist`
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2023 11:03:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8r6pssbu.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f026837-af56-435f-9d4e-048a18af07eb@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Wed, 22 Nov 2023 09:02:03 +0100")

>> We could, but we could also define the semantics of `same-frame` to have
>> no effect on frame re-use (it would actually be closer to the current
>> semantics).  If so, it'd be best to find another name for it along the
>> lines of "no-new-frame".
> Agreed.  'inhibit-pop-up-frame' or 'inhibit-new-frame' would be more in
> accordance with 'inhibit-same-window' and 'inhibit-switch-frame'.

I like `inhibit-new-frame`, thanks.

>>>>> We could add a 'display-buffer--same-frame-action' variable.
>>>> I don't really know what that suggestion means.
>>>> The `--` suggests it'd be some internal detail of `window.el` whereas
>>>> I thought we're discussing the externally visible API and semantics.
>>> It could do what I meant above - translate 'same-frame' internally.
>> What is "it"?  `display-buffer--same-frame-action`?
>> Without knowing where you'd use such a variable, it's hard for me to
>> guess what you mean by that.
> It would be similar to 'display-buffer--same-window-action' and
> 'display-buffer--other-frame-action' and could be used in the same way.

These are just implementation details of `switch-to-buffer-other-frame`,
`display-buffer-other-frame`, `pop-to-buffer-same-window`, ...

So, it would still require the introduction of something like
`display-buffer-same-frame` to make use of it.

> But I'm not familiar with these variables

I guess only Chong is familiar with them, then 🙁

> and the customization types that use them (IIRC either you or Chong
> invented them).

The customization type is not used for them (they are internal
variables, not user-facing nor Customizable).

>> So you think the patch I sent is actually more-or-less acceptable
>> (modulo documentation and finding a better name)?
> Yes.

OK, I'll try and get it into an acceptable shape, then.

> If OT1H 'same-frame' is ignored when the selected frame is a
> minibuffer-only frame (so a new frame gets popped up instead) and OTOH
> the remaining action functions do use the last non-minibuffer frame in
> such case, then the behavior of 'display-buffer' is inconsistent in my
> regard.

Ah, yes, I see.
IIUC, the "inhibit-new-frame" semantics seems less susceptible to this
problem then the "same-frame", no?


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-22 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-17 21:41 bug#67249: 30.0.50; `same-frame` equivalent for `display-buffer-alist` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-18  8:36 ` martin rudalics
2023-11-19  3:52   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-19 10:35     ` martin rudalics
2023-11-19 14:57       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-20  9:15         ` martin rudalics
2023-11-20 13:33           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-21 17:14             ` martin rudalics
2023-11-21 19:09               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-22  8:02                 ` martin rudalics
2023-11-22 16:03                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2023-11-23  9:59                     ` martin rudalics
2023-11-24  2:52                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-24  9:05                         ` martin rudalics
2023-11-24 13:51                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-24 16:25                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-25  9:00                               ` martin rudalics
2023-11-25 14:36                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-03 19:06                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-04  7:23                                     ` martin rudalics
2023-12-09 22:29                                       ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-09 22:40                                         ` Drew Adams
2023-12-09 22:52                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-09 23:17                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-12-10  6:00                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-10 16:28                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-10 21:46                                             ` Drew Adams
2023-12-10  5:53                                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-12-10 17:16                                           ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-11 17:13                                             ` martin rudalics via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-11 22:14                                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-12-16 18:16                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-25  9:00                             ` martin rudalics
2023-11-25 14:37                               ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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