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From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 66912@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#66912: With `require', the byte compiler reports the wrong file for errors.
Date: Sun, 10 Nov 2024 16:37:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8qtqwzcn.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzDx4wbwZwwtH3Ew@MAC.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Sun, 10 Nov 2024 17:48:19 +0000")

>> Because of my "A => B => compile => C => D" example: the message I want
>> to have depends on the chain from the point where I catch the error
>> (i.e. the `condition-case`) to the point where the error is signaled.
>> And I don't really care about the debugger case.
> That is no explanation as to WHY you think it's the right thing.
> The point in that chain where we catch the error is an internal
> implementation detail, of no interest to the user.

Not at all.  In the above example, the error message goes to the
compilation buffer, and it would be weird for that buffer to say "while
loading A while loading B" whereas the compiled code loads neither.

> WHY are you so unconcerned about the debugger case?

In the debugger case, I usually have direct access to the problematic
code and usually don't care that much about the further parts of the
context explaining why that code is executed.
Occasionally I do, but "loading" is not special in this respect: I will
just as often be interested to know which command was used, in which
buffer, or which hook caused that code to be run.

> I think it would be consistent to display "While loading..." the same
> in both cases.

To be honest, I don't see much value in displaying "while loading" in
the echo area in general.  I'm not opposed to it, but the only case
where I know it could be helpful is during compilation (which I'm
mostly interested to see it in the compilation buffer).


        Stefan






  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-10 21:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-03 11:32 bug#66912: With `require', the byte compiler reports the wrong file for errors Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-03 16:09 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-12 16:30   ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-12 17:28     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-12 20:41       ` Alan Mackenzie
2023-11-12 21:19         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-11-12 23:00           ` Drew Adams
2024-10-29 18:59           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-30 19:33             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-10-30 21:52               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-10-30 22:31                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-02 13:47                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-02 14:51                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-03 22:34                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04  2:46                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-04 12:52                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04 16:12                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-04 21:08                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05  3:27                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-05  4:15                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-05 14:54                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 19:00                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-05 20:33                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 23:20                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-06 16:23                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-06 18:51                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-06 20:12                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-06 23:14                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-07 12:37                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-07 16:09                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-07 17:15                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-08 13:42                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-08 20:01                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-08 20:26                                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-09 12:35                                                               ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-09 16:45                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-10 10:40                                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-10 16:45                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-10 17:48                                                                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-10 21:37                                                                         ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-11-12 14:53                                                                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-12 15:38                                                                             ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-07 15:04                                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 12:18                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-05 14:04                                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-05 14:06                                   ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-04 16:35                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04 12:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-04 13:13                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-04 13:34                             ` Eli Zaretskii

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