From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
74339@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#74339: 30.0.92; CC Mode stomps C TS Mode
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2024 01:17:41 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv8qtjr9wu.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZzfDc2upzcx1iLPN@MAC.fritz.box> (Alan Mackenzie's message of "Fri, 15 Nov 2024 21:56:03 +0000")
> No, that is the problem. Have a look at major-mode-remap-defaults, and
> how c-ts-mode uses it to cause the symbol `c-mode' to start c-ts-mode in
> certain circumstances. This is what I'm unhappy about.
In which way is this worse than what we have in Emacs-29 where loading
`c-ts-mode` does things like:
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist
'("\\(\\.[chi]\\|\\.lex\\|\\.y\\(acc\\)?\\)\\'" . c-ts-mode))
(add-to-list 'auto-mode-alist '("\\.x[pb]m\\'" . c-ts-mode))
?
> That "somehow" is the loading of c-ts-mode. I think that even C-h f
> c-ts-mode counts as an "explicit indication" of a supposed preference for
> c-ts-mode, given that it loads c-ts-mode (if it actually does).
Yup, and the same happens in Emacs-29.
> I don't think the current mechanism is ready for the release of Emacs 30.
I don't see a regression here.
> We don't have fine enough control. /* mode: c */ followed by /*
> c-basic-offset: 4 */ in the Local Variables: section is a sure sign that
> C Mode is intended, not a random C handling mode.
In your head, maybe.
I think for most users of other C modes (e.g. `c-ts-mode` or
`sm-c-mode`), the /* mode: c */ thingy just means that this file should
use their favorite major mode for C.
> What I think we're lacking is an explicit setting or command for the
> user to state what her preferred mode for C actually is.
You still haven't explained why the user's personal preference about the
major mode should be stated in the file.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-11-13 14:00 bug#74339: 30.0.92; CC Mode stomps C TS Mode Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-13 15:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-13 18:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-13 20:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-13 22:34 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-13 22:57 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 6:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 9:24 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-14 10:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 20:54 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-14 15:51 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 16:29 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-14 16:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 17:16 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 19:45 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 16:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-14 16:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 17:45 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-14 17:52 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 19:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 19:53 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-14 20:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 20:38 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-14 21:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 21:26 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-15 8:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 16:17 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-15 8:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 7:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 13:04 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-15 14:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 17:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-15 19:01 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-15 19:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-15 20:45 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-16 10:25 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 14:03 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-16 14:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 20:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-15 21:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-16 3:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-11-16 11:45 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 18:17 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-16 6:17 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2024-11-16 8:18 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <Zzi86KPmTv1Qb3nw@MAC.fritz.box>
[not found] ` <86ttc7f7jo.fsf@gnu.org>
2024-11-16 21:56 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-17 6:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-16 9:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 18:57 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 7:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-21 13:57 ` Alan Mackenzie
2024-11-21 19:02 ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-11-21 19:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 17:29 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 19:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 19:38 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 20:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-14 20:58 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-14 22:06 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-15 12:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 7:58 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-15 16:12 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-16 20:51 ` Andrea Corallo
2024-11-13 20:28 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2024-11-13 20:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-11-13 20:46 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
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