From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11999: 24.1.50; New Info file suffix ".info" breaks `Info-find-node-2' Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:36:07 -0400 Message-ID: References: <30361DAB51FE4AC487EBA7C11AACB36C@us.oracle.com> <831uk688pk.fsf@gnu.org> <35D365A3D0D0487CB7928FB2A672541D@us.oracle.com> <83sjcl7b5w.fsf@gnu.org> <83eho325d9.fsf@gnu.org> <83obn5ktb2.fsf@gnu.org> <83a9ynltar.fsf@gnu.org> <83zk6njk51.fsf@gnu.org> <83fw8dk8bm.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1343511423 31689 80.91.229.3 (28 Jul 2012 21:37:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11999@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jul 28 23:37:03 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEh4-0002yL-RA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 23:37:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52403 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEh4-0005wk-2j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:37:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47387) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEh1-0005we-NA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:37:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEh0-0001Qf-K3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:36:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37756) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEh0-0001QZ-H2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:36:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEnq-0005u2-5f for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:44:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:44:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11999 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11999-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11999.134351179822630 (code B ref 11999); Sat, 28 Jul 2012 21:44:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11999) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Jul 2012 21:43:18 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47302 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEn7-0005sx-Ol for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:43:18 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:33234) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SvEn4-0005so-IY for 11999@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:43:16 -0400 Original-Received: from fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q6SLa8g9013662; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:36:08 -0400 Original-Received: by fmsmemgm.homelinux.net (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 7C195AE2A2; Sat, 28 Jul 2012 17:36:07 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83fw8dk8bm.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Fri, 27 Jul 2012 09:49:01 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV4293=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9309 : core <4293> : streams <791226> : uri <1177666> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:62540 Archived-At: >> >> Note that most uses of `user-error' are correct in that they signal >> >> conditions which are usually simply due to a mistaken manipulation >> >> (such as trying to move past the EOB) >> > That's a coincidence: we tend to want the no-debug behavior for user >> > errors. Bu the feature is not about user errors, it's about not >> > entering the debugger. >> No, it's not just a coincidence: if the problem is not due to the author >> of the code having made a mistake, then it can basically only be due to >> a mistake of the user in its larger sense (which includes the steps the >> user or his sysadmin did to set up the system). > Let's take the use case of typing "i foobar" and getting "No 'foobar' > in index." in response. Whose fault/mistake is this? I think it is clearly a "user error". Stefan