From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12973: @: overused in manual Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:17:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <50AFCDA1.8020500@cs.ucla.edu> <831ufjtsrb.fsf@gnu.org> <50B06D14.2070104@cs.ucla.edu> <83zk27savf.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1353770254 9900 80.91.229.3 (24 Nov 2012 15:17:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , 12973@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 24 16:17:45 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHUG-0003NT-Av for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 16:17:44 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48882 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHU5-0003Yr-Ig for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:17:33 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34416) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHU2-0003Ym-TC for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:17:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHU2-00084C-00 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:17:30 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54746) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHU1-000844-Tg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:17:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHVV-0006BU-Rv for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:19:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:19:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12973 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: patch Original-Received: via spool by 12973-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12973.135377031823743 (code B ref 12973); Sat, 24 Nov 2012 15:19:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12973) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Nov 2012 15:18:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36764 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHV7-0006Au-La for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:18:37 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:60456) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TcHV5-0006An-OB for 12973@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:18:36 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAG6Zu09FpaQ6/2dsb2JhbABEtBGBCIIVAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiBwFugmQRAOIQppxgViDBw X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,637,1330923600"; d="scan'208";a="208386407" Original-Received: from 69-165-164-58.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([69.165.164.58]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Nov 2012 10:17:02 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 85FCD597C9; Sat, 24 Nov 2012 10:17:02 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83zk27savf.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 24 Nov 2012 09:44:52 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:67398 Archived-At: > In any case, in my experience, this kind of changes is quickly made > futile by future changes to the manuals that re-introduce comma-less > e.g. and i.e. back into the text. So if we want to adhere to the > style that prefers the comma, we should IMO install some change that > enforces these rules, to be run at "make info" time and flag any > deviations. And I think we had better just ignore those differences and move on. Enforcing such rules is a waste of time. Stefan