From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15260: cannot build in a directory with non-ascii characters Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:30:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83y55ih6g3.fsf@gnu.org> <81ppqums9o.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83hac5h1ha.fsf@gnu.org> <83bo2dgq36.fsf@gnu.org> <837gd1gpcz.fsf@gnu.org> <8361slgnhk.fsf@gnu.org> <83zjpwfp3l.fsf@gnu.org> <83mwlug0cd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382920277 22483 80.91.229.3 (28 Oct 2013 00:31:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:31:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 15260@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 28 01:31:20 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vaajn-0005ae-EN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Oct 2013 01:31:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39470 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vaajm-000780-Ps for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:31:18 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34034) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vaajd-00077s-NQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:31:16 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VaajW-0004fw-Ck for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33904) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VaajW-0004fs-9B for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:31:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VaajV-0002Fx-QK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:31:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:31:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 15260 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 15260-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B15260.13829202447620 (code B ref 15260); Mon, 28 Oct 2013 00:31:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 15260) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Oct 2013 00:30:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47923 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1VaajD-0001yK-Gl for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:30:43 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.182]:62098) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Vaaj8-0001n8-KF for 15260@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:30:39 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av4EABK/CFFsr+u9/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IPAS-Result: Av4EABK/CFFsr+u9/2dsb2JhbABEvw4Xc4IeAQEEAVYjBQsLNBIUGA0kiB4GwS2RCgOkeoFegxM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.84,565,1355115600"; d="scan'208";a="36471562" Original-Received: from 108-175-235-189.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([108.175.235.189]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 27 Oct 2013 20:30:32 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 5360260036; Sun, 27 Oct 2013 20:30:32 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83mwlug0cd.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sun, 27 Oct 2013 18:11:46 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:79709 Archived-At: > So I guess you are asking why the particular piece of code being > discussed here couldn't keep file names as unibyte strings, is that > your question? IIUC the issue is how to encode when we don't yet have the coding-systems loaded/setup. But it seems if we can't encode, then we can't decode either, so we should just fallback on using unibyte strings (which shouldn't be encoded on the way back to the OS) for those file names we create/manipulate before coding-systems are available. Stefan