From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19232: 25.0.50; ring.el: why not autoload `ring-member' etc.? Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:39 -0500 Message-ID: References: <0c8bdd78-ef47-4ce6-ae96-353a1920c5c1@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1417406437 24478 80.91.229.3 (1 Dec 2014 04:00:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2014 04:00:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19232@debbugs.gnu.org To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 01 05:00:30 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9t-0003Fp-Mr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Dec 2014 05:00:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52667 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9t-000814-Bj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:00:21 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55997) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9j-00080j-50 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:00:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9b-0000bv-Mg for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:00:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:53041) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9b-0000bA-KP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:00:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9b-0005QN-1Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:00:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2014 04:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19232 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19232-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19232.141740638520798 (code B ref 19232); Mon, 01 Dec 2014 04:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19232) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Dec 2014 03:59:45 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:50254 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9I-0005PK-PY for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:44 -0500 Original-Received: from chene.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.20]:59628) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1XvI9G-0005P5-C0; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:42 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by chene.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id sB13xdFX017820; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:40 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 210B485E7; Sun, 30 Nov 2014 22:59:39 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <0c8bdd78-ef47-4ce6-ae96-353a1920c5c1@default> (Drew Adams's message of "Sun, 30 Nov 2014 11:18:30 -0800 (PST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5141=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5141> : inlines <1571> : streams <1350042> : uri <1836816> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:96773 Archived-At: tags 19232 notabug thanks > Subject line says it all. Why make users `require' ring.el for such > functions, or autoload them themselves? Do what you do now for `ringp' > and `make-ring' for other functions as well, such as `ring-insert', > `ring-member', and `ring-next'. This is a utility library. I think the error is to autoload ring-p and make-ring. Of course it's a bit late to fix it, but that's no reason to add many more autoloads. Just (require 'ring) like everyone else if you use functions from that library. Stefan