From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#49278: 28.0.50; Lisp Mode is for Common Lisp Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:59:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87y2asa6lg.fsf@gmail.com> <835yxwo7td.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="6670"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , 49278@debbugs.gnu.org To: =?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?= Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 30 01:00:14 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lyMiD-0001Xa-Cp for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Jun 2021 01:00:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47466 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyMiB-000899-RX for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:00:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51846) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyMi2-00088y-UO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:44369) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lyMi2-0006AS-M4 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:00:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyMi2-00052A-Fo for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 19:00:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 49278 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 49278-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B49278.162500758019297 (code B ref 49278); Tue, 29 Jun 2021 23:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 49278) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Jun 2021 22:59:40 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55915 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyMhf-000519-Lo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:59:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:54590) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1lyMhd-00050v-9X for 49278@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:59:37 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 1E75C441292; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 57E4C44129F; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:59:30 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1625007570; bh=RhuDg0ZrhD3hWf1ktyP6MeTQWwXa+SdfZnFiVGn89Hk=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=UwYOFlAEeAq0bV0uwppPgNIl34iwHbueJ0rAjdw+xM2yggAtFFuz+1MlojenC0UxY xxCH6GYKl5ahAKJh8XBHgsJhNhI6SpO2/8/oayDfpGGJRFuxfwWq2lXsiF71C16I3P 4PvJunXir9xmNdNOx2ezR+OFARJ5MAVajV+41kDjvhL6j1q2uzaqG0XVzb4vWpd29t qz50j8IPYPR5cYVC/uxNufSUSTQAFzLsdaCB4T2SwJO2qeF3P7x8C8ZXYX9Gak+Jyp GZsoIkOSIW8zrXhrTT8K19jfrhdXcKC09AdjVgJ7ip1llxCW50PFRgmXQTDOyzQwqA raqlKQLjDmmlA== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [45.72.205.238]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 2521D120520; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 18:59:30 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: ("=?UTF-8?Q?Jo=C3=A3o_?= =?UTF-8?Q?T=C3=A1vora?="'s message of "Tue, 29 Jun 2021 21:55:36 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:209130 Archived-At: > Yeah, but fair to say MacLisp hasn't evolved tremendously in > those years (and neither has Common Lisp sadly). Same difference. It only works for Maclisp to the extent that Maclisp is similar to Common Lisp and not because `lisp-mode` is a major mode for both Common Lisp and Maclisp. > So I reckon lisp-mode wouldn't to a terrible job in most MacLisp > programs. And maybe even SLY and a modern Common Lisp compiler could > probably grok MacLisp or Franz Lisp code given sufficient > hand-holding. IIRC they'd be surprised by the way arrays are treated: http://www.maclisp.info/pitmanual/array.html or "hunks": http://www.maclisp.info/pitmanual/hunks.html Also `lisp-mode` will happily misfontify and misindent `caseq` and `selectq`: http://www.maclisp.info/pitmanual/contro.html#CASEQ [ There are significant incompatibilities, of course. ] The fact that such errors in the handling of Maclisp have not been addressed in `lisp-mode` in all these years (despite that Maclisp has been a very stable target during those years) shows clearly that `lisp-mode` does not try to be a major mode for Maclisp. Stefan