From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6192: 24.0.50; eldoc-mode: unexpected recentering Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:55:51 -0400 Message-ID: References: <878w7mjtml.fsf@escher.home> <4BF03E92.40909@gmx.at> <87d3wvzkzs.fsf@escher.home> <4BF106FA.7090502@gmx.at> <874oi6oo6f.fsf@escher.home> <83iq6mbek1.fsf@gnu.org> <83eihabcuo.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1274126231 24270 80.91.229.12 (17 May 2010 19:57:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: stephen.berman@gmx.net, 6192@debbugs.gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 17 21:57:10 2010 connect(): No such file or directory Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE6R3-0004eq-IJ for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 21:57:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59943 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OE6R2-0002rV-Ql for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:57:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=33695 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OE6Qp-0002oT-CM for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:57:00 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE6Qj-0005oY-WA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:56:55 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:33345) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE6Qj-0005oQ-T0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:56:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE6Py-0006oX-A6; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:56:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:56:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6192 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6192-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6192.127412615926187 (code B ref 6192); Mon, 17 May 2010 19:56:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6192) by debbugs.gnu.org; 17 May 2010 19:55:59 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE6Pu-0006oK-2p for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:55:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OE6Ps-0006oE-37 for 6192@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:55:56 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAPI78UtMCpz0/2dsb2JhbACde3K9dYUQBIwv X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.53,249,1272859200"; d="scan'208";a="64403090" Original-Received: from 76-10-156-244.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.156.244]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP; 17 May 2010 15:55:51 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 6C5798064; Mon, 17 May 2010 15:55:51 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lennart Borgman's message of "Mon, 17 May 2010 20:49:09 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 15:56:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:37000 Archived-At: > - We could by default show messages truncated. Then we could have a an > idle timer that after maybe 2 second showed the message wrapped. > That would stop the annoying jumping caused by messages we still do > not have a chance to see in the echo area because they are overwritten > by later message (often leaving the lower line blank in the echo > area). That is a largely orthogonal issue (e.g. for eldoc it probably wouldn't be a good approach). But yes, I'd like to introduce a new kind of message that doesn't just "display it now" but rather "display this for N seconds, but return right away". I.e. a form of "message" that would queue the message for display and then a separate "thread" that would display the messages queued. This would avoid/solve many of the "my message was overwritten by yours" problems. Stefan