From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#17831: 24.4.50; bad default value for `Man-width' Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:29:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87tx7buryg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <53A92532.9040901@gmx.at> <83zjh2qpia.fsf@gnu.org> <83mwd2qji7.fsf@gnu.org> <83ha3aqdh5.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403641835 4727 80.91.229.3 (24 Jun 2014 20:30:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:30:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 17831@debbugs.gnu.org, sdl.web@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jun 24 22:30:27 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXMH-0007YI-MV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 22:30:25 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33714 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXMG-0005cV-Sd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:30:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38690) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXM5-0005V6-KA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:30:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXLy-00045G-2i for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:30:13 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40256) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXLy-00044K-0d for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:30:06 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXLw-0004Kc-Na for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:30:04 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:30:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 17831 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 17831-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B17831.140364179716612 (code B ref 17831); Tue, 24 Jun 2014 20:30:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 17831) by debbugs.gnu.org; 24 Jun 2014 20:29:57 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:59639 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXLo-0004Jr-Bo for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:29:56 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:8945) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1WzXLm-0004Jc-PE for 17831@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:29:55 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIxALNBIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IPAS-Result: ArYGAIDvNVNLd+D9/2dsb2JhbABZgwaDSr0vgw6BFxd0giUBAQEBAgFWIxALNBIUGA0kiAQI0hkXjnoHhDgEqRmBaoNMIQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.97,753,1389762000"; d="scan'208";a="69435335" Original-Received: from 75-119-224-253.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([75.119.224.253]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 24 Jun 2014 16:29:49 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C02AA66167; Tue, 24 Jun 2014 16:29:48 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83ha3aqdh5.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Tue, 24 Jun 2014 23:06:30 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:90755 Archived-At: >> > So perhaps TRT is simply to get rid of the asynchronous operation in >> > the first place. >> The annoying disruption is when "M-x man" takes a long time to get&generate >> the full output. > Most of that can easily be thrown away. Just look at what it does. Maybe it could be sped up, indeed. But I still prefer an async process that gives me: - empty buffer after 0s - full first page displayed after 0.1s - buffer fully filled and ready after 5s over a sync process that blocks for 3s. Stefan