From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4717: 23.1.50; C-M-h in bibtex mode Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2014 10:37:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <8763agjs00.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <19163.19389.592808.77535@regnitz.physics.niu.edu> <87ws2sbg0k.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <19163.57157.842686.926110@regnitz.physics.niu.edu> <87k33bvt5g.fsf@vsl28t2g.ww011> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1415201972 32646 80.91.229.3 (5 Nov 2014 15:39:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 15:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 4717@debbugs.gnu.org, Chong Yidong , Roland Winkler , sdl.web@gmail.com To: dieter@duenenhof-wilhelm.de (H. 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Dieter Wilhelm's message of "Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:15:39 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:95535 > Summary of this thread from 2009 about the unusual behaviour of > C-M-h (bibtex-mark-entry) in BibTeX mode > 1) In BibTeX mode C-M-h does (still) not switch on a transient region Indeed. Ideally BibTeX's C-M-h should not be rebound, and instead beginning-of-defun-function and end-of-defun-function should be set in such as way that mark-defun marks the same text as bibtex-mark-entry. > 4) The optional argument ALLOW-EXTEND is not explained in the doc string It is, tho indirectly: Interactively, if this command is repeated or (in Transient Mark mode) if the mark is active, it marks the next defun after the ones already marked. > I would like to volunteer and also argue that point 2) i. e. putting > point *behind* a marked element(s) and advancing the marking from point > is advantageous for large elements (pages, defuns, paragraphs), when the > marked elements might span outside of the current window and the marking > commands are repeated. In this case the buffer is scrolled > automatically with the new boundary and possible additional marking > targets become visible. Of course, C-SPC M-C-e M-C-e M-C-e would work about as well in that case ;-) Stefan