From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" <bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
To: Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
Cc: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, stefan@marxist.se, 48079@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#48079: Temporary files while building after native-comp merge
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2022 12:15:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv5yqwn60n.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <xjfpmp44zgi.fsf@ma.sdf.org> (Andrea Corallo's message of "Thu, 06 Jan 2022 16:10:37 +0000")
Andrea Corallo [2022-01-06 16:10:37] wrote:
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>>> In the plain old byte-compiler, these files are *very* short lived
>>> because they're not created during the compilation itself but only at
>>> the very end when we save the result to a file (and we just do it by
>>> first saving to `foo.elcNNMMPP` and then renaming that to `foo.elc`).
>>>
>>> Now with `batch-byte-native-compile-for-bootstrap` apparently we "suspend
>>> the byte-compiler" right in the middle of this small time window, i.e. after
>>> writing to `foo.elcNNMMPP` but before its renamed. Then we call the
>>> native compiler and only once the native compiler is done, we resume the
>>> byte compilation which just renames the file and exits.
>>>
>>> If that understanding is correct, then I think we may be able to fix the
>>> problem by just changing the moment at which we suspend the byte-compiler:
>>> suspend it *before* it writes to `foo.elcNNMMPP`.
>>
>> Are you sure your description above is accurate?
No, but I haven't heard any indication to the contrary either.
>> We have a backtrace in bug#48978 that shows when we create the
>> .elcXXX temporary file. My reading of that backtrace is that it's
>> the other way around: native-compilation invokes byte-compile-file,
>> which compiles the Lisp into bytecode, creates the file with
>> make-temp-file, and writes out the bytecode. It is true that we then
>> defer renaming of the temporary file in this case
I don't see why you say "the other way around". Maybe you're putting
more emphasis on some detail of what I wrote than what I intended.
The core os what I wrote is that we should change the code so that the
native compilation takes place before the `.elcNNMMPP` file is written
rather than after.
AFAICT the native compiler does not read/need that file because it gets
the same information in a more convenient format straight from
`bytecomp.el`.
> That's correct,
I don't know what "That" refers to.
Stefan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-01-06 17:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-04-28 11:10 bug#48079: Temporary files while building after native-comp merge Stefan Kangas
2021-04-28 12:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-28 12:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-28 13:14 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-28 19:27 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-28 21:26 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-29 5:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-29 8:19 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-29 9:20 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-04-29 10:15 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-02 23:38 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-01-03 17:14 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-06 16:10 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-01-06 16:30 ` Glenn Morris
2022-01-06 16:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-01-06 17:15 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors [this message]
2022-01-07 16:30 ` Andrea Corallo
2022-01-14 15:58 ` Stefan Monnier via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-29 11:22 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-04-29 8:18 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-05-02 8:09 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-02 10:12 ` Stefan Kangas
2021-05-02 10:18 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-02 21:36 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-05-05 8:35 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-05 12:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-05 12:47 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-05 14:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-05-05 14:24 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-05-06 9:15 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-05-06 10:12 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2021-04-28 19:24 ` Andrea Corallo via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2022-05-24 12:36 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
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