From: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
To: Juri Linkov <juri@jurta.org>
Cc: 5809@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#5809: 23.1.94; cross-reference by anchor yields in accurate position
Date: Mon, 05 Apr 2010 16:09:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jwv4ojp3c6e.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bpdxdes3.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:50:52 +0300")
> I think both types of navigation links (breadcrumbs and up/next/prev)
> should be treated equally. If we'll implement clicking with the keyboard
> and copy&paste in Emacs-24, it would be natural to apply this to the
> up/next/prev links as well and change their visual appearance.
The up/prev/next links are different because we don't want them to
scroll with the text. I.e. we're willing to give up on keyboard-clicking
and copy&pasting to be able to use the header-line.
Maybe we'd want to put the breadcrumbs in the header-line as well, but
that would require 2 lines of header-line and I'm not sure I'd be in
favor of such a change (especially as computer displays tend to get
less and less tall nowadays, for reasons that escape me).
> In any case, it's important that the visual appearance should match the
> user's expectation. When the visual appearance of breadcrumbs is
> the same as for the rest text of the Info buffer, users will be tempted
> to use the keyboard on breadcrumbs.
I think it's OK: it is a misfeature, so it's normal for people to
complain about them. Let's not pretend it's a feature when it's not.
Or to reverse your argument: if it looks like a header-line, people will
report bugs about the fact that it doesn't stay at the top of the
display ;-)
I.e. in any case it won't match all the user's expectations and I don't
think this argument will give us a good basis on which to make a decision.
> The overlay doesn't correctly interact with the `invisible'
> text property.
Interesting. That deserves a comment.
> However, we can put 'invisible on the overlay instead of the text property:
> (let ((ov (make-overlay (point-min) (1+ header-end))))
> (overlay-put ov 'invisible t)
> (overlay-put ov 'after-string (Info-breadcrumbs))
> (overlay-put ov 'evaporate t))
Yes, that's better, thank you.
Stefan
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Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-03-31 9:58 bug#5809: 23.1.94; cross-reference by anchor yields in accurate position Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-31 11:17 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-03-31 15:08 ` Juri Linkov
2010-03-31 15:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-01 18:06 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 18:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-01 18:30 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 20:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-01 20:49 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-01 21:10 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 22:16 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-02 7:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-02 14:17 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-02 14:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-02 15:26 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-04 20:39 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-04 20:47 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-04 22:51 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-04 23:58 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-05 7:01 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-05 16:42 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-05 20:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-05 23:17 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-06 5:49 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-06 17:46 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-05 16:45 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-05 17:12 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-05 21:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-05 6:38 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-02 16:14 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-02 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2010-04-02 17:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-02 18:01 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-02 23:11 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-03 22:04 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-04 6:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-04 11:07 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-04 12:12 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-04 23:51 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-05 5:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-04-04 14:31 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-04 23:52 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-05 2:06 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-05 16:50 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-05 20:09 ` Stefan Monnier [this message]
2010-04-05 22:17 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-01 21:09 ` Juri Linkov
2010-04-02 18:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-04-25 18:28 ` Chong Yidong
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