From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8050: Gnus does not connect to my IMAP server any more Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874o7e23i8.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87lj0ptv9y.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87zkp5qnrd.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299640634 4460 80.91.229.12 (9 Mar 2011 03:17:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 03:17:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Ted Zlatanov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 09 04:17:05 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9tX-0007fY-21 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Mar 2011 04:17:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48970 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px9js-0006LH-2K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:07:04 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59867 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px9jm-0006Hj-7w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:06:59 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9jl-0001HT-AF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:06:58 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:60839) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9jl-0001HP-8S for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:06:57 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9hu-0006Hx-GR; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:05:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, bugs@gnus.org Resent-Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2011 03:05:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8050 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs,gnus X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.129963987424135 (code B ref -1); Wed, 09 Mar 2011 03:05:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Mar 2011 03:04:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9hR-0006HE-Q4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9hQ-0006H2-Sk for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9hK-0000kJ-QZ for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:27 -0500 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]:40834) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9hJ-0000ju-LV for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:26 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=53636 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Px9hG-0004UT-5s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:23 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9hC-0000jK-6L for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:19 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183]:35150 helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Px9hC-0000jB-2Y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:04:18 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvsEAHZ8dk3O+LEt/2dsb2JhbACmanXCY4VjBIUdj3g X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.62,287,1297054800"; d="scan'208";a="95184667" Original-Received: from 206-248-177-45.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.177.45]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 08 Mar 2011 22:04:17 -0500 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 07600660D6; Tue, 8 Mar 2011 22:04:17 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87zkp5qnrd.fsf@lifelogs.com> (Ted Zlatanov's message of "Tue, 08 Mar 2011 15:57:10 -0600") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:05:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:44806 Archived-At: SM> And that leads to an absence of cursor in the minibuffer, even though SM> it's fundamentally a prompt. Why not copy y-or-n-p from subr.el as SM> a starting point? SM> If you can factor out the commonality, I'd be happy to provide SM> a "prompt-maker" function and then define y-or-n-p in terms of that SM> prompt-maker. > Can I really be the only one to need this? Weird. I actually used > `read-char-choice' first but XEmacs doesn't support it. Perhaps Gnus > should provide a compatibility wrapper that uses it opportunistically. > Would you rather go the "prompt-maker" route? Oh, I didn't even remember read-char-choice, but yes, that's probably a better starting point. We should actually make y-or-n-p use read-char-choice. > I really like the way dropdown-list.el does selection (see > http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/dropdown-list.el, "overlays stolen > from company-mode.el"). It shows the list of choices inside the buffer > as a true popup. To me that looks much better than y-or-n-p if the > terminal supports it. If Emacs doesn't have anything similar, I think > it's a nice addition to the core UI functionality. Let me know and I'll > propose it on emacs-devel if necessary. I don't know what that would look like in your y/n/N/e/? case. Stefan