From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#8492: 23.3; Time to use a different binding for completion? Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:48:34 -0300 Message-ID: References: <87zknuhxl4.fsf@sc3d.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1303340860 17704 80.91.229.12 (20 Apr 2011 23:07:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 23:07:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 8492@debbugs.gnu.org To: Reuben Thomas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 21 01:07:36 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUi-00051X-3U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:07:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51401 helo=lists2.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUh-00076l-IV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:60931) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUd-00073O-HX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUb-0004Fp-9U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:31 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41703) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgUb-0004Fk-7s for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:07:29 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgCj-0006MB-UC; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:49:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:49:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 8492 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 8492-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B8492.130333973224420 (code B ref 8492); Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:49:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 8492) by debbugs.gnu.org; 20 Apr 2011 22:48:52 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgCZ-0006Lp-Fi for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:48:51 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgCS-0006LV-T7 for 8492@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:48:49 -0400 Original-Received: from 213-159-126-200.fibertel.com.ar ([200.126.159.213]:36636 helo=ceviche.home) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1QCgCM-0006A4-GS; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:48:38 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id B690E66740; Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:48:34 -0300 (ART) In-Reply-To: (Reuben Thomas's message of "Wed, 20 Apr 2011 19:28:08 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:49:01 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:45900 Archived-At: > Having said that, no key binding is better than a clever key binding. > Some uses of completion perhaps don't need a key (as for example many > uses of code completion, which in other IDEs pop up a list of > completions by default). I think this one is a fallacy: popping up the menu may not need a key binding, but you do need a key binding in order to select something from that menu. Admittedly, it changes the problem enough that the solution may be simpler (e.g. M-n and M-p can be used for that whereas they don't seem nearly as attractive for completion-at-point). Stefan