From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#20322: 25.0.50; indent-tabs-mode should default to nil Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:07:39 -0400 Message-ID: References: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428980902 13501 80.91.229.3 (14 Apr 2015 03:08:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:08:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 20322@debbugs.gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 14 05:08:11 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCs-00080O-Cl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:08:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54020 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCr-0004Cr-HU for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:08:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCo-0004Cl-82 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:08:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCk-0004XC-VW for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:08:06 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:37372) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCk-0004X4-S1 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:08:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCk-0008GS-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:08:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:08:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 20322 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 20322-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B20322.142898086631745 (code B ref 20322); Tue, 14 Apr 2015 03:08:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 20322) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Apr 2015 03:07:46 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55381 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCU-0008Fw-8r for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:07:46 -0400 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]:37655) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1YhrCR-0008Fm-Ls for 20322@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:07:44 -0400 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id t3E37ewI026809; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:07:40 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id E563D1078; Mon, 13 Apr 2015 23:07:39 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <861tjn3069.fsf@yandex.ru> (Dmitry Gutov's message of "Tue, 14 Apr 2015 05:37:18 +0300") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 0 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 1 Rules triggered RV5275=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.3.0.9393 : core <5275> : inlines <2702> : streams <1422106> : uri <1906122> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:101496 Archived-At: > Is there a reason it's t by default? There was probably a reason originally. Nowadays, I think the main reason it's t is because there's no sufficiently good reason to change it (the hypothetical benefit of change will be smaller than the pain of having to suffer through too many people bitching at the change). I.e. this is kind of like endianness. Stefan