From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2756: move SCCS later in vc-handled-backends Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 11:55:24 -0400 Message-ID: References: <200903231725.n2NHPLF1011557@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <200903232151.n2NLpuHT014920@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <200903232222.n2NMMkHl015277@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <200904011544.n31Ficb4003367@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier , 2756@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238602297 27072 80.91.229.12 (1 Apr 2009 16:11:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 16:11:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2756@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com To: Dan Nicolaescu Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 01 18:12:55 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lp33J-0003lX-EB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:12:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53312 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp31v-0007bw-8K for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:11:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp2ux-0000XF-7l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp2us-0000RS-8w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:54 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43962 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lp2us-0000RA-2v for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:50 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:38750) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lp2ur-0007gY-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:49 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n31G3lMm013380; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:03:47 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n31G04AQ012220; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 09:00:04 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:00:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2756 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2756-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2756.123860133411955 (code B ref 2756); Wed, 01 Apr 2009 16:00:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2756) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 1 Apr 2009 15:55:34 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.pppoe.ca [206.248.154.182]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n31FtUmV011920 for <2756@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:55:32 -0700 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmgFADQr00nO+Lq2/2dsb2JhbACBU885g3sGhH+CLg X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.39,307,1235970000"; d="scan'208";a="36044738" Original-Received: from 206-248-186-182.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO ceviche.home) ([206.248.186.182]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP; 01 Apr 2009 11:55:25 -0400 Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C0714B4124; Wed, 1 Apr 2009 11:55:24 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <200904011544.n31Ficb4003367@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> (Dan Nicolaescu's message of "Wed, 1 Apr 2009 08:44:38 -0700 (PDT)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.92 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 01 Apr 2009 12:03:54 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:26805 Archived-At: >> >> What problem? And in what way is it a fix for it? >> > The fact that SCCS generates unnecessary work for all files managed by >> > bzr, git, hg (which is a good number nowadays). >> Unnecessary work is not a problem in and of itself. > No, but given that it's unnecessary, and that it will be unnecessary in > the future too, why not get rid of it? >> And, if this unnecessary work is a problem for Bzr, Git, or Hg files, >> it's even more problematic for all the non-revision controlled files >> which additionally need to do unnecessary work to determine that they're >> neither under Git, Bzr, nor Hg control. So changing the order won't >> make much of a difference, other than hide the problem in the particular >> case where you're lucky enough to access a file under the right VCS. > Yes, the thing is, what you are talking about above is a separate problem > that cannot be solved at this point. > Even more, the solution for that problem would not solve the problem or > unnecessary checking for SCCS for systems that have sccs installed by > default (i.e. about all commercial unixes and free ones that install > cssc). So why not just move SCCS to the end of the list? Because we're in prestest so we limit ourselves to bug-fixes. Stefan