From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#6616: S-TAB is mismapped in the *Help* buffer Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:03:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4C3AB426.2040500@gmail.com> <83pqyssj5a.fsf@gnu.org> <83mxtwsei9.fsf@gnu.org> <4C3BFCB6.8000002@gmail.com> <4C55B0F9.1060101@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1280707717 16063 80.91.229.12 (2 Aug 2010 00:08:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2010 00:08:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Adrian Robert , 6616@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Griepentrog Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 02 02:08:35 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Ofia2-0003Zp-7Y for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:08:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53917 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ofia1-0004Sj-HM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:08:33 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=34673 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OfiZT-00049J-67 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:08:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfiZR-0006fa-P3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:07:58 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:36500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfiZR-0006fW-NX for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:07:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfiVe-0006SZ-EO; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:04:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:04:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 6616 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 6616-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B6616.128070738324817 (code B ref 6616); Mon, 02 Aug 2010 00:04:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 6616) by debbugs.gnu.org; 2 Aug 2010 00:03:03 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfiUh-0006SE-KE for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:03:03 -0400 Original-Received: from impaqm2.telefonica.net ([213.4.138.2]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OfiUf-0006Rs-P8 for 6616@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:03:02 -0400 Original-Received: from IMPmailhost5.adm.correo ([10.20.102.126]) by IMPaqm2.telefonica.net with bizsmtp id p98A1e00Z2jdgqJ3MC3C6G; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:03:12 +0200 Original-Received: from ceviche.home ([83.61.38.247]) by IMPmailhost5.adm.correo with BIZ IMP id pC3B1e00F5KwfZf1lC3B1e; Mon, 02 Aug 2010 02:03:12 +0200 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAA== X-TE-authinfo: authemail="monnier$movistar.es" |auth_email="monnier@movistar.es" X-TE-AcuTerraCos: auth_cuTerraCos="cosuitnetc01" Original-Received: by ceviche.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 294C166125; Mon, 2 Aug 2010 02:03:11 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4C55B0F9.1060101@gmail.com> (Paul Griepentrog's message of "Sun, 01 Aug 2010 10:38:01 -0700") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 20:04:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:39119 Archived-At: > I say, pick a solution and make it consistent across the modes > shipped with Emacs. IMHO, [S-tab] is the 'correct' binding, > since we press those actual keys. In most cases I've seen `backtab' is the "correct" binding because it's the one that makes logical sense: the command is about doing something in the opposite direction from what the `tab' key does. The reason why S-tab is (also) used is that `backtab' is rarely available, and as a convention we use S-tab as a poor man's backtab. Stefan