From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#10144: 24.0.91; `pop-up-frames' with dedicated windows is broken: `C-x C-f' Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:40:04 -0500 Message-ID: References: <42F11A5C92E54694A1779211C6EF56FE@us.oracle.com> <4ED13A80.70408@gmx.at> <4ED213D4.8070400@gmx.at> <4ED38DA0.70005@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1322509280 1641 80.91.229.12 (28 Nov 2011 19:41:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:41:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 10144@debbugs.gnu.org To: "Drew Adams" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 28 20:41:16 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RV74l-0007qq-7F for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:41:15 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48412 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RV74k-0005Uu-IS for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:41:14 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:46858) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RV74i-0005T7-7z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:41:12 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RV74c-0006Ck-UO for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:41:12 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41616) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RV74c-0006Cc-Q6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:41:06 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RV76T-0003fu-Sf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:43:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:43:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 10144 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 10144-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B10144.132250932814060 (code B ref 10144); Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:43:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 10144) by debbugs.gnu.org; 28 Nov 2011 19:42:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RV75b-0003ej-N7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:42:07 -0500 Original-Received: from pruche.dit.umontreal.ca ([132.204.246.22]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RV75W-0003e7-Uf for 10144@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:42:06 -0500 Original-Received: from pastel.home (lechon.iro.umontreal.ca [132.204.27.242]) by pruche.dit.umontreal.ca (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id pASJe4sP001828; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:40:04 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 4633E58BB2; Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:40:04 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: (Drew Adams's message of "Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:01:58 -0800") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.91 (gnu/linux) X-NAI-Spam-Flag: NO X-NAI-Spam-Level: * X-NAI-Spam-Threshold: 5 X-NAI-Spam-Score: 1 X-NAI-Spam-Rules: 2 Rules triggered ZERO_OBF_STOCK=1, RV4055=0 X-NAI-Spam-Version: 2.2.0.9286 : core <4055> : streams <706028> : uri <1017743> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 14:43:01 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:54384 Archived-At: >> making them pop up a new frame is not significantly better >> than making them signal an error. > I can't speak to the bugs you're referring to, but my experience with my own > setup (see previous mail) is that I have never been surprised or had an > unfortunate experience by the buffer being shown in another window/frame > (instead of getting the Cannot switch error). Under Windows, I'd expect those bugs to manifest themselves by having a frame "flash" (because the find-file pops up a new frame which is immediately destroyed by the save-window-excursion). In other window managers, the behavior can be arbitrarily different (e.g. it can prompt the user to place the new frame, not knowing that it will be destroyed right away). Stefan