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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
@ 2012-04-16 19:07 Marius Hofert
  2012-04-16 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marius Hofert @ 2012-04-16 19:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: 11257

This bug report will be sent to the Bug-GNU-Emacs mailing list
and the GNU bug tracker at debbugs.gnu.org.  Please check that
the From: line contains a valid email address.  After a delay of up
to one day, you should receive an acknowledgement at that address.

Please write in English if possible, as the Emacs maintainers
usually do not have translators for other languages.

Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug, and
the precise symptoms of the bug.  If you can, give a recipe
starting from `emacs -Q':

I described the problem here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670

and in more detail here:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775

Please let me know if you need more details.

Cheers,

Marius

If Emacs crashed, and you have the Emacs process in the gdb debugger,
please include the output from the following gdb commands:
    `bt full' and `xbacktrace'.
For information about debugging Emacs, please read the file
/Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/Resources/etc/DEBUG.


In GNU Emacs 24.0.95.1 (x86_64-apple-darwin, NS apple-appkit-1038.36)
 of 2012-04-02 on bob.porkrind.org
Windowing system distributor `Apple', version 10.3.1138
Configured using:
 `configure '--host=x86_64-apple-darwin' '--build=i686-apple-darwin' '--with-ns'
 'build_alias=i686-apple-darwin' 'host_alias=x86_64-apple-darwin' 'CC=gcc
 -mmacosx-version-min=10.5''

Important settings:
  value of $LC_ALL: nil
  value of $LC_COLLATE: nil
  value of $LC_CTYPE: nil
  value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil
  value of $LC_MONETARY: nil
  value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil
  value of $LC_TIME: nil
  value of $LANG: nil
  value of $XMODIFIERS: nil
  locale-coding-system: nil
  default enable-multibyte-characters: t

Major mode: Org

Minor modes in effect:
  gnus-desktop-notify-mode: t
  TeX-PDF-mode: t
  org-indent-mode: t
  buffer-face-mode: t
  flyspell-mode: t
  shell-dirtrack-mode: t
  yas/global-mode: t
  yas/minor-mode: t
  show-paren-mode: t
  delete-selection-mode: t
  desktop-save-mode: t
  tooltip-mode: t
  mouse-wheel-mode: t
  menu-bar-mode: t
  file-name-shadow-mode: t
  global-font-lock-mode: t
  font-lock-mode: t
  blink-cursor-mode: t
  auto-composition-mode: t
  auto-encryption-mode: t
  auto-compression-mode: t
  column-number-mode: t
  line-number-mode: t
  transient-mark-mode: t

Recent input:
u SPC w e i t e r ? <return> <return> L G <S-return> 
<S-return> M a r i u s <switch-frame> <switch-frame> 
<help-echo> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> r i c h t i g 
SPC <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> 
<right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <right> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> C-c C-c <wheel-up> 
<double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<wheel-down> <double-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <wheel-up> <double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <wheel-down> <double-wheel-down> 
<triple-wheel-down> <triple-wheel-down> <wheel-up> 
<double-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
<triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> <triple-wheel-up> 
C-x k <return> C-x k <return> s-w <help-echo> s-n C-x 
b c o m <tab> <return> <up> <up> <left> <tab> <up> 
<tab> <left> <tab> <down> <down> <down> <tab> <up> 
<up> <tab> <tab> <down> <tab> <s-left> C-x k <return> 
y <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <help-echo> <up> <up> <down> C-a C-SPC 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> <down> 
<down> <down> <down> M-w <up> <up> <up> <down> <down> 
C-x k <return> s-w M-x g <return> <up> L <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <down> g <return> <return> M-> M-< g 
C-x k <return> C-x 1 g <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> <up> 
<up> <up> <up> <down-mouse-1> <mouse-1> l <up> m M 
a r i u s <tab> g o o <tab> <down> f o o <tab> <tab> 
<tab> <down> <down> <down> <down> c h e c k C-c C-c 
<return> <return> C-x k <return> <return> E q <down-mouse-1> 
<mouse-1> q M-x r e p r <backspace> o r <tab> <ret
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lisp-mode register page menu-bar rfn-eshadow timer select scroll-bar mouse
jit-lock font-lock syntax facemenu font-core frame cham georgian utf-8-lang
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romanian slovak czech european ethiopic indian cyrillic chinese case-table
epa-hook jka-cmpr-hook help simple abbrev minibuffer loaddefs button faces
cus-face files text-properties overlay sha1 md5 base64 format env code-pages
mule custom widget hashtable-print-readable backquote make-network-process ns
multi-tty emacs)

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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-16 19:07 bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775 Marius Hofert
@ 2012-04-16 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2012-04-16 19:40   ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-16 19:32 ` Glenn Morris
  2012-04-17  0:15 ` Bastien
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-04-16 19:31 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: 11257

> From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:07:31 +0200
> 
> I described the problem here:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
> 
> and in more detail here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775

FWIW, the backtrace you posted indicates that the crash happens when
Emacs attempts to display a tooltip.  I'm guessing that the crash was
here:

  w = XWINDOW (window);

because 'window' is not a window object.

> Please let me know if you need more details.

It would be nice to know where exactly it crashes inside
remember_mouse_glyph, and why.





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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-16 19:07 bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775 Marius Hofert
  2012-04-16 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-04-16 19:32 ` Glenn Morris
  2012-04-16 19:44   ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-17  0:15 ` Bastien
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2012-04-16 19:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: 11257

Marius Hofert wrote:

> I described the problem here:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>
> and in more detail here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
>
> Please let me know if you need more details.

As a mild rant, I greatly prefer to get self-contained bug reports,
rather than ones that just refer me to URLs for the (often vague)
details. The stackoverflow reference, like many of the ones forwarded to
this list recently, is useless. The org mode one contains actual
details (backtrace etc).

Rant over! :)
I hope someone can help with your problem, which like many crashes seems
to be specific to the NS port of Emacs.





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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-16 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2012-04-16 19:40   ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-16 20:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marius Hofert @ 2012-04-16 19:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: 11257


On 2012-04-16, at 21:31 , Eli Zaretskii wrote:

>> From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:07:31 +0200
>> 
>> I described the problem here:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>> 
>> and in more detail here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
> 
> FWIW, the backtrace you posted indicates that the crash happens when
> Emacs attempts to display a tooltip.  I'm guessing that the crash was
> here:
> 
>  w = XWINDOW (window);
> 
> because 'window' is not a window object.
> 
>> Please let me know if you need more details.
> 
> It would be nice to know where exactly it crashes inside
> remember_mouse_glyph, and why.

Thanks for taking your time to deal with this. 

Unfortunately, I don't know what you mean by remember_mouse_glyph so I can't be more specific at this point. What I can do is (due to the relatively large number of crashes I have) to send you output (of Console.app) of other crashes, too. I hope this will help. 

Does it help if I send you my full ~/.emacs?

Cheers,

Marius


ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj






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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-16 19:32 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-04-16 19:44   ` Marius Hofert
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marius Hofert @ 2012-04-16 19:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 11257


On 2012-04-16, at 21:32 , Glenn Morris wrote:

> Marius Hofert wrote:
> 
>> I described the problem here:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>> 
>> and in more detail here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
>> 
>> Please let me know if you need more details.
> 
> As a mild rant, I greatly prefer to get self-contained bug reports,
> rather than ones that just refer me to URLs for the (often vague)
> details. The stackoverflow reference, like many of the ones forwarded to
> this list recently, is useless.

Okay, I'm sorry for this. 
I already knew I can't provide a minimal example, so your rant is justified.

> The org mode one contains actual
> details (backtrace etc).
> 
> Rant over! :)
> I hope someone can help with your problem, which like many crashes seems
> to be specific to the NS port of Emacs.

So Mac-specific. I kind of expected that since I use 99% of my setup under linux, too, and I didn't see crashes there (but the problem with this statement is that I use 99% the Mac and 1% Linux).

Cheers,

Marius


ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj






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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-16 19:40   ` Marius Hofert
@ 2012-04-16 20:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2012-04-16 20:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: 11257

> From: Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch>
> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2012 21:40:57 +0200
> CC: <11257@debbugs.gnu.org>
> 
> > It would be nice to know where exactly it crashes inside
> > remember_mouse_glyph, and why.
> 
> Thanks for taking your time to deal with this. 
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't know what you mean by remember_mouse_glyph

It's a function defined in xdisp.c, around line 2150.

> so I can't be more specific at this point. What I can do is (due to the relatively large number of crashes I have) to send you output (of Console.app) of other crashes, too. I hope this will help. 

I hope too, because that output leaves a lot to be desired.

> Does it help if I send you my full ~/.emacs?

No, but thanks for offering.





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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-16 19:07 bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775 Marius Hofert
  2012-04-16 19:31 ` Eli Zaretskii
  2012-04-16 19:32 ` Glenn Morris
@ 2012-04-17  0:15 ` Bastien
  2012-04-17 10:06   ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-17 17:51   ` Stefan Monnier
  2 siblings, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-04-17  0:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: 11257

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:

> I described the problem here:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>
> and in more detail here:
> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775

This bug is being explored on the org-mode list, I'll close it 
here when things are sorted out.

-- 
 Bastien





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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-17  0:15 ` Bastien
@ 2012-04-17 10:06   ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-18  2:32     ` Chong Yidong
  2012-04-18 11:34     ` Bastien
  2012-04-17 17:51   ` Stefan Monnier
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marius Hofert @ 2012-04-17 10:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: 11257

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 345 bytes --]

The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce this at some point in the future). 

Cheers,

Marius


[-- Attachment #2: crash_2.txt --]
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Process:         Emacs [6378]
Path:            /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs
Identifier:      org.gnu.Emacs
Version:         Version 24.0.95 (9.0)
Code Type:       X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [117]

Date/Time:       2012-04-17 11:57:41.796 +0200
OS Version:      Mac OS X 10.7.3 (11D50)
Report Version:  9

Crashed Thread:  0  Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGABRT)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000018

VM Regions Near 0x18:
-->
    __TEXT                 0000000100000000-0000000100203000 [ 2060K] r-x/rwx SM=COW  /Applications/Emacs.app/Contents/MacOS/Emacs

Application Specific Information:
objc[6378]: garbage collection is OFF
abort() called

Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff9801a82a __kill + 10
1   org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000a824b fatal_error_signal + 347
2   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff981cecfa _sigtramp + 26
3   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff9801ace2 __pthread_kill + 10
4   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff9817c7d2 pthread_kill + 95
5   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff9816da7a abort + 143
6   org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x0000000100191f41 ns_term_shutdown + 81
7   org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000a8217 fatal_error_signal + 295
8   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff981cecfa _sigtramp + 26
9   libobjc.A.dylib               	0x00007fff9a22d3af objc_msgSend_vtable14 + 47
10  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x0000000100196268 x_free_frame_resources + 216
11  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001001963e9 x_destroy_window + 25
12  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000115bc delete_frame + 828
13  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x0000000100123c55 Ffuncall + 1125
14  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x000000010011fff6 Fcall_interactively + 6374
15  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x0000000100123c42 Ffuncall + 1106
16  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x0000000100123e26 call3 + 38
17  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000bc16e command_loop_1 + 1134
18  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x0000000100122285 internal_condition_case + 293
19  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000b1787 command_loop_2 + 55
20  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x0000000100122389 internal_catch + 217
21  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000b1f0c recursive_edit_1 + 364
22  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000b2082 Frecursive_edit + 290
23  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000a8f4e main + 3262
24  org.gnu.Emacs                 	0x00000001000022f4 start + 52

Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff9801b7e6 kevent + 10
1   libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff931885be _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 923
2   libdispatch.dylib             	0x00007fff9318714e _dispatch_mgr_thread + 54

Thread 2:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff9801b192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff9817c594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff9817db85 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 3:
0   libsystem_kernel.dylib        	0x00007fff9801b192 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff9817c594 _pthread_wqthread + 758
2   libsystem_c.dylib             	0x00007fff9817db85 start_wqthread + 13

Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (64-bit):
  rax: 0x0000000000000000  rbx: 0x0000000000000006  rcx: 0x00007fff5fbfe628  rdx: 0x0000000000000000
  rdi: 0x00000000000018ea  rsi: 0x0000000000000006  rbp: 0x00007fff5fbfe660  rsp: 0x00007fff5fbfe628
   r8: 0x0000000000000001   r9: 0x0000000000000010  r10: 0x00007fff9801ad0a  r11: 0xffffff80002d8220
  r12: 0x0000000000000006  r13: 0x000000010058a688  r14: 0x00007fff7f356960  r15: 0x000000010058a79c
  rip: 0x00007fff9801a82a  rfl: 0x0000000000000202  cr2: 0x00007fff7f34da28
Logical CPU: 0

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On 2012-04-17, at 02:15 , Bastien wrote:

> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:
> 
>> I described the problem here:
>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10164425/emacs-almost-random-crashes-about-2-3-times-a-day-on-mac-os-x/10176670#10176670
>> 
>> and in more detail here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
> 
> This bug is being explored on the org-mode list, I'll close it 
> here when things are sorted out.
> 
> -- 
> Bastien

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj


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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-17  0:15 ` Bastien
  2012-04-17 10:06   ` Marius Hofert
@ 2012-04-17 17:51   ` Stefan Monnier
  2012-04-18  9:04     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2012-04-17 17:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: Marius Hofert, 11257

> This bug is being explored on the org-mode list,

That seems ill-advised, since it looks like a plain crash, which can
only be due to a bug in the C code.


        Stefan





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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-17 10:06   ` Marius Hofert
@ 2012-04-18  2:32     ` Chong Yidong
  2012-04-18 11:34     ` Bastien
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2012-04-18  2:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: Bastien, 11257

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:

> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was
> in an emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to
> click the other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can
> really reproduce this at some point in the future).

The Cocoa stack trace is almost useless for debugging.  Please run Emacs
under GDB, and post the GDB backtrace the next time the crash happens.

Your binary should be compiled with debugging symbols enabled, and
preferably with no compiler optimizations.





^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread

* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-17 17:51   ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2012-04-18  9:04     ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-04-18  9:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: Marius Hofert, 11257

Stefan Monnier <monnier@IRO.UMontreal.CA> writes:

>> This bug is being explored on the org-mode list,
>
> That seems ill-advised, since it looks like a plain crash, which can
> only be due to a bug in the C code.

This was not an advice, just a fact.  The information I wanted to 
share was "If this issue is solved on the org-mode list, I will 
close it here."

-- 
 Bastien





^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread

* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-17 10:06   ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-18  2:32     ` Chong Yidong
@ 2012-04-18 11:34     ` Bastien
  2012-04-18 11:37       ` Marius Hofert
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-04-18 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: 11257

Hi Marius,

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:

> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an
> emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the
> other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce
> this at some point in the future).

I hope too -- thanks for discussing this bug here, since it definitely
looks like it's an Emacs bug.

-- 
 Bastien





^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 17+ messages in thread

* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-18 11:34     ` Bastien
@ 2012-04-18 11:37       ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-18 13:43         ` Marius Hofert
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marius Hofert @ 2012-04-18 11:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: 11257

Dear all,

I had two further crashes this morning but due to my (multiple) jobs no time yet to work with Emacs in debug mode (I've never done that, I'm an emacs user for just some months). 

I'll look into that when I have more time, should be towards the end of the week, and get back to you.

Thanks for taking the time, I really hope we can sort this out -- totally annoying if you work in front of 100 students and your Emacs crashes all the time...

Cheers,

Marius

On 2012-04-18, at 13:34 , Bastien wrote:

> Hi Marius,
> 
> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:
> 
>> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
>> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an
>> emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the
>> other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce
>> this at some point in the future).
> 
> I hope too -- thanks for discussing this bug here, since it definitely
> looks like it's an Emacs bug.
> 
> -- 
> Bastien

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj






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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-18 11:37       ` Marius Hofert
@ 2012-04-18 13:43         ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-18 14:57           ` Chong Yidong
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marius Hofert @ 2012-04-18 13:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bastien; +Cc: 11257

I used "M-x set-variable <RET> debug-on-error <RET> t" to set Emacs in debug mode. After this change, I just changed buffers until it crashed again. I thought I'm lucky but apparently not: How do I obtain a "Backtrace buffer" when Emacs crashes... ? After a restart, there was no such buffer :-(

On 2012-04-18, at 13:37 , Marius Hofert wrote:

> Dear all,
> 
> I had two further crashes this morning but due to my (multiple) jobs no time yet to work with Emacs in debug mode (I've never done that, I'm an emacs user for just some months). 
> 
> I'll look into that when I have more time, should be towards the end of the week, and get back to you.
> 
> Thanks for taking the time, I really hope we can sort this out -- totally annoying if you work in front of 100 students and your Emacs crashes all the time...
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Marius
> 
> On 2012-04-18, at 13:34 , Bastien wrote:
> 
>> Hi Marius,
>> 
>> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:
>> 
>>> The next crash happened, please find attached the report (from
>>> Console.app). I was just working with two open buffers. The point was in an
>>> emacs shell (I just navigated in dired-mode) and I wanted to click the
>>> other open buffer (not very detailed, again, I hope I can really reproduce
>>> this at some point in the future).
>> 
>> I hope too -- thanks for discussing this bug here, since it definitely
>> looks like it's an Emacs bug.
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bastien
> 
> ETH Zurich
> Dr. Marius Hofert
> RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
> HG E 65.2
> Rämistrasse 101
> 8092 Zurich
> Switzerland
> 
> Phone +41 44 632 2423
> marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch
> http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj
> 

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj






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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-18 13:43         ` Marius Hofert
@ 2012-04-18 14:57           ` Chong Yidong
  2012-04-20 21:48             ` Marius Hofert
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Chong Yidong @ 2012-04-18 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: Bastien, 11257

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:

> I used "M-x set-variable <RET> debug-on-error <RET> t" to set Emacs in
> debug mode. After this change, I just changed buffers until it crashed
> again. I thought I'm lucky but apparently not: How do I obtain a
> "Backtrace buffer" when Emacs crashes... ? After a restart, there was
> no such buffer :-(

You have to compile Emacs from source, start Emacs from inside GDB from
inside the Emacs src/ directory (run "gdb emacs", then "r" at the GDB
prompt), and trigger the crash.  Then use the command "bt" in GDB to
view the backtrace.





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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-18 14:57           ` Chong Yidong
@ 2012-04-20 21:48             ` Marius Hofert
  2012-04-20 21:56               ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 17+ messages in thread
From: Marius Hofert @ 2012-04-20 21:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Chong Yidong; +Cc: Bastien, 11257

Hi,

I could finally manage to compile Emacs from source. This is something I wanted to do already half a year ago, but it didn't work (many errors) and I didn't know how to fix this. This is how I came to http://emacsformacosx.com/builds. But thanks to the post on 
http://carlgroner.me/Emacs/OSX/2011/10/19/Building-Emacs-for-Mac-OSX-Lion.html
It finally worked without flaws. I worked with Emacs the whole day today and did not experience a single crash. I hope it remains like this :-). 
My guess is that the final problem came from the fact that the Emacs I originally used was built under 10.6.8 and I ran it on 10.7.3. Why the log-files from Console.app showed org-mode is still strange to me, but I'm definitely not an expert on these issues.

I'll get back to you if I experience another crash. For now, it seem's good.

Cheers,

Marius

On 2012-04-18, at 16:57 , Chong Yidong wrote:

> Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:
> 
>> I used "M-x set-variable <RET> debug-on-error <RET> t" to set Emacs in
>> debug mode. After this change, I just changed buffers until it crashed
>> again. I thought I'm lucky but apparently not: How do I obtain a
>> "Backtrace buffer" when Emacs crashes... ? After a restart, there was
>> no such buffer :-(
> 
> You have to compile Emacs from source, start Emacs from inside GDB from
> inside the Emacs src/ directory (run "gdb emacs", then "r" at the GDB
> prompt), and trigger the crash.  Then use the command "bt" in GDB to
> view the backtrace.

ETH Zurich
Dr. Marius Hofert
RiskLab, Department of Mathematics
HG E 65.2
Rämistrasse 101
8092 Zurich
Switzerland

Phone +41 44 632 2423
marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch
http://www.math.ethz.ch/~hofertj






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* bug#11257: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.orgmode/54775
  2012-04-20 21:48             ` Marius Hofert
@ 2012-04-20 21:56               ` Bastien
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 17+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2012-04-20 21:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Marius Hofert; +Cc: Chong Yidong, 11257-done

Hi Marius,

Marius Hofert <marius.hofert@math.ethz.ch> writes:

> I'll get back to you if I experience another crash. For now, it seem's
> good.

Thanks for the report!  I'm closing this bug.

-- 
 Bastien





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2012-04-16 19:40   ` Marius Hofert
2012-04-16 20:00     ` Eli Zaretskii
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2012-04-16 19:44   ` Marius Hofert
2012-04-17  0:15 ` Bastien
2012-04-17 10:06   ` Marius Hofert
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2012-04-18 11:34     ` Bastien
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2012-04-18 13:43         ` Marius Hofert
2012-04-18 14:57           ` Chong Yidong
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