From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19302: 24.4.51; `date-to-time' fails after 2038 Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:06:29 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87vblmc377.fsf@gmail.com> <871rqd6yys.fsf@stefankangas.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="29811"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 19302@debbugs.gnu.org, beauchampgabriel@gmail.com, larsi@gnus.org, Richard Stallman To: Stefan Kangas Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 29 21:07:13 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1j88OH-0007dl-5x for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 21:07:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35496 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j88OG-0002SE-8I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:07:12 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47125) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1j88O7-0002RV-Fc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:07:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j88O6-0005Lf-6Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:07:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:57701) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1j88O5-0005LZ-Uf for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:07:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j88O5-0006FL-QI for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:07:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 29 Feb 2020 20:07:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19302 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 19302-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19302.158300679823968 (code B ref 19302); Sat, 29 Feb 2020 20:07:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19302) by debbugs.gnu.org; 29 Feb 2020 20:06:38 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35441 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j88Ni-0006EV-2T for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:06:38 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:42950) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1j88Ng-0006EC-Cj for 19302@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:06:36 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 14E3544EEE7; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:06:31 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg3.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 37A6A44EE95; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:06:30 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1583006790; bh=uulEN9hWn3c8Kg8DBlx16LK4Fa3Ndbu0N7SobuNsy50=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=XvoLmFG14y0YtSMal6h8L6a25NHRqJzqh82AGFOvkK70BZBzVu5W0s++lVUrN3mz9 pyRleS+53L3hs4DxeKfoEoXnF2Pf24B93LfT8OkdsQqZcgmtJmN7LDZSpiyazsL7bB UNMajIBnlKFzqKdd+Y4Bm6S0NT9QgHQmK8uCyns9qLA1uK8VbJh1NgciVHsaQL91Um sCBTADwoTETckHFtyNFh6xhWu4m56POwK4lHR/csAIzoMFKI55x/bRzAphBT5ajBHu 05JttfyYDwR/vD2Fcqp09sMbuIr8GL/ugWyavWH/fAldegeMK9xbHepSbhBlt5nVN1 lWU+eyBEDiejQ== Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [216.154.50.221]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E679F1202CD; Sat, 29 Feb 2020 15:06:29 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <871rqd6yys.fsf@stefankangas.se> (Stefan Kangas's message of "Sat, 29 Feb 2020 19:17:21 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:176691 Archived-At: >>>> I agree, but not by making Emacs do heroic hacks, instead we can make >>>> the problem go away by telling the user to update his C library. >>> What C library version fixes this? >> I don't know. But as long as the problem is not sufficiently important >> to fix it in the C library, I don't see why we should fix it in Emacs. > I agree. Does anyone object to closing this as wontfix? Side note: IIUC glibc now has something working and distributions like Debian are now trying to figure out how to go about incorporating it (since it expands time_t to 64bit on 32bit systems, forcing an ABI-incompatible change which can create more ABI-incompatible changes in libraries that include a time_t in their API). Stefan