From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#9350: 23.3; File menu should contain "split window horizontally C-x 3" Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:36:42 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wre4z0zw.wl%arne_bab@web.de> <4E9C29BB.4020804@gmx.at> <4E9C79E5.9010901@gmx.at> <4EA13C0C.2090202@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1319204282 29884 80.91.229.12 (21 Oct 2011 13:38:02 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:38:02 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 9350@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 21 15:37:58 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFIM-00080a-2j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 15:37:58 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57717 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFIL-0007Fb-Dh for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:37:57 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47079) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFIH-0007FK-NJ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:37:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFID-0001BW-4m for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:37:53 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:41193) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFID-0001BP-1w for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:37:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFJO-0005d2-Jt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:39:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:39:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 9350 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 9350-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B9350.131920429421577 (code B ref 9350); Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:39:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 9350) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Oct 2011 13:38:14 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFIa-0005bv-GI for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:38:14 -0400 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.183] helo=ironport2-out.pppoe.ca) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RHFIQ-0005bL-V8 for 9350@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:38:07 -0400 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Av0EAJ50oU5MCqLO/2dsb2JhbAA6CakbgQaBbgEBBAFWIxALNBIUGA0kiBO0DYUSgy4EoTKERQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,385,1315195200"; d="scan'208";a="143543664" Original-Received: from 76-10-162-206.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([76.10.162.206]) by ironport2-out.pppoe.ca with ESMTP/TLS/ADH-AES256-SHA; 21 Oct 2011 09:36:42 -0400 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id 96B61591FC; Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:36:42 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <4EA13C0C.2090202@gmx.at> (martin rudalics's message of "Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:31:56 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list Resent-Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 09:39:02 -0400 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:52984 Archived-At: >> PS: One thing that annoys me in the current working of split-window: it >> doesn't let you say which window (the top or the bottom) is the new one. > The new one is that returned by `split-window', as before. No, that's not the issue. It's not about "which window (the selected-window or the returned window) is the new one" it's "which window (the top one or the bottom one)". And the issue is not "tell me which it is" but "I want to control which one it should be". >> This was fine back when windows had very little state of their own, but >> now it is important when it matters because of window-parameters, >> window-dedicated-p, ... >> So if we want to improve split-window, I think we should consider this >> issue as well. > Do you mean you need the identity of the new window when `split-window' > is called indirectly by another function? Maybe you could provide a use > case? No, here's the scenario: you have a dedicated window, and you want to create a new window above that one: split-window won't work because it will always create the new window below. Stefan