From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#19395: 25.0.50; Setting left fringe to 0 messes up window-width Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87vblbnz2u.fsf@posteo.de> <83k31rwe55.fsf@gnu.org> <87lhm772o2.fsf@posteo.de> <83h9wvwbux.fsf@gnu.org> <83egrzvtb0.fsf@gnu.org> <83388ewa4w.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbhvd9s.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1418912735 5654 80.91.229.3 (18 Dec 2014 14:25:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:25:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 19395@debbugs.gnu.org, malsburg@posteo.de To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 18 15:25:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1c17-0008RA-0Z for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 15:25:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54148 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1c16-0006KO-3b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:25:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58081) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1c0v-0006Jp-L5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:25:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1c0k-00084o-HF for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:25:13 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:40213) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1c0k-00084Y-Dt for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:25:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1c0j-0008Ub-PP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:25:01 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:25:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 19395 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 19395-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B19395.141891264932573 (code B ref 19395); Thu, 18 Dec 2014 14:25:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 19395) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 Dec 2014 14:24:09 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49579 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1bzt-0008TJ-7U for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:24:09 -0500 Original-Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com ([206.248.154.181]:44180) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Y1bzq-0008T9-PL for 19395@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:24:07 -0500 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: Aj4PAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVawjuCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBAwFWIxALNBIUGA0kiEoJ1lkBAQEBAQEEAQEBAR6QbweESAWLAZIxj3OCCoF4hBkhgncBAQE X-IPAS-Result: Aj4PAOwQflTO+ILA/2dsb2JhbABbgweDYIVawjuCYgQCAoEkFwEBAQEBAXyEAwEBAwFWIxALNBIUGA0kiEoJ1lkBAQEBAQEEAQEBAR6QbweESAWLAZIxj3OCCoF4hBkhgncBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.07,502,1413259200"; d="scan'208";a="102885810" Original-Received: from 206-248-130-192.dsl.teksavvy.com (HELO pastel.home) ([206.248.130.192]) by ironport2-out.teksavvy.com with ESMTP/TLS/DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA; 18 Dec 2014 09:24:05 -0500 Original-Received: by pastel.home (Postfix, from userid 20848) id C7C852D79; Thu, 18 Dec 2014 09:24:05 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <83ppbhvd9s.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 Dec 2014 05:37:51 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:97498 Archived-At: >> So, it doesn't seem to be a request of terribly high importance. > But it's already done. Yes, but your argument for not providing the "no fringe" behavior is that it would go against this request, so I'm pointing out that this is not a good enough reason. Most of the non-Emacs editors I see (e.g. vi in a tty, or the god-awful edit-boxes in Iceweasel) don't have anything like fringes or other forms of continuation glyphs (IOW, there's simply no visual indication at all distinguishing a line-wrap from a newline), so it would make sense for Emacs to be able to provide this behavior somehow. Stefan