From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#45435: Additional libraries required by transient and magit manuals Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:58:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: <87r1nd8y13.fsf@bernoul.li> <87o8if8lcc.fsf@bernoul.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23223"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: 45435@debbugs.gnu.org To: Jonas Bernoulli Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 27 16:59:18 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ktYRx-0005wj-Jg for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 16:59:17 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60204 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktYRw-0005OY-LF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:59:16 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37398) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktYRj-0005IV-Be for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:49966) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ktYRj-00049H-4J for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:59:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ktYRj-0004bb-2T for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:59:03 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2020 15:59:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 45435 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 45435-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B45435.160908471117635 (code B ref 45435); Sun, 27 Dec 2020 15:59:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 45435) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Dec 2020 15:58:31 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33274 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ktYRC-0004aN-W4 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:58:31 -0500 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:5814) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ktYRA-0004a9-R6 for 45435@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:58:29 -0500 Original-Received: from pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id C935410023D; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:58:22 -0500 (EST) Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg1.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 9B3AA100222; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:58:16 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1609084696; bh=iGeZx9wr5+jfCV38QUknOKLH4CycVJe4txZvwtT6Qq0=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=G3BY4ps/Z9cMiWFkdiFFcUR19hbJ6IdK8pvjHzV2HfGCF/BFgOdCKqFE+RC7rN5su HHx/RdUkcA3tOGUlOHyMIjBDEVQNqTY/lp9hrkYsb5L9x5K6J1WpEaSnNPVWQSxImG dY6nj8VZ33BQJqzzwIUf8Se6QrsxShzubjsNQnWB/hnjFYGQwOlY6SDcI56oL/EYy2 cU7Udh2V5QpBISVkEakzzC2dTJTAS5R2rqKZmiTqIA2nOKFcmuD6mvy8inInbXXrxZ KKs4eYusyqu+HmeP6xnnEKTe7MPk0VBT+5OmseceTpCoFdJwBim7GVl+XhZeGFequr gIBp1Rq6+mYjg== Original-Received: from alfajor (unknown [104.247.243.191]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 662071201CC; Sun, 27 Dec 2020 10:58:16 -0500 (EST) In-Reply-To: <87o8if8lcc.fsf@bernoul.li> (Jonas Bernoulli's message of "Sun, 27 Dec 2020 13:49:55 +0100") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:196800 Archived-At: >> So maybe rather than look for the solution by re-using the code we >> already have lying around, we should "manually" add the handful of extra >> packages to the builder's `~/.emacs.d/elpa` ? >> The downside would be that it requires a manual step from someone with >> access to `elpa.gnu.org`. > That's what I had in mind and if it were you who kept that up-to-date, > as opposed to some fsf admin, then that could work. I'd most likely be the one keeping it up-to-date (the fsf admins have better things to do than try and understand what we've setup inside the VM ;-). And yes, that would work but I'd rather not be so "indispensable". Also it'd make it yet harder to approximate on your own machine what happens on `elpa.gnu.org`. >> Or maybe we could keep the contents of that >> `~/.emacs.d/elpa` in a separate branch/directory and just make it >> available to `:make` targets, so anyone with write access to the Git >> repository can add (installed) packages in there. > That is probably the better approach. Yes, the more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that it's obviously superior. > Would you want check a copy of these libraries into the "main" branch? I'm thinking of keeping it in a separate branch that can be shared between `elpa.git` and `nongnu.git`. > Maybe that branch should be renamed to "admin/elpa-admin" and other > admin tools could use "admin/" as well. Gnu elpa would end up > with two identical branches for "ox-texinfo+": "externals/ox-texinfo+" > and "admin/ox-texinfo+", nongnu elpa however would only feature the > latter. I'm rather thinking that the new branch would keep the equivalent of `~/.emacs.d/elpa`, i.e. code that's in an "installed" state, e.g. byte compiled, so not "two identical branches". Stefan