From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Monnier via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65209: 30.0.50; Unexpected behaviour of setq-local Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:51:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87msyu2tmm.fsf@web.de> <80D7C281-C3DD-4DCA-9B14-1569E849CBC7@gmail.com> <87wmxqqq7d.fsf@web.de> <83350exl6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87wmxnojrb.fsf@web.de> <83msyjtkeo.fsf@gnu.org> <871qfu4dyx.fsf@web.de> <83fs4arnr1.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Stefan Monnier Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="29485"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Michael Heerdegen , 65209@debbugs.gnu.org, gerd.moellmann@gmail.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 23 14:53:14 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qYnMI-0007PA-Cb for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 14:53:14 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYnM5-0007od-1w; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:53:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYnM3-0007oR-G5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:52:59 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qYnM3-00083p-8Q for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:52:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYnM6-0002bX-7G for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:53:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Stefan Monnier Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2023 12:53:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65209 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 65209-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65209.16927951249941 (code B ref 65209); Wed, 23 Aug 2023 12:53:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65209) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Aug 2023 12:52:04 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33138 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYnL8-0002a4-0c for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:52:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mailscanner.iro.umontreal.ca ([132.204.25.50]:19215) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qYnL2-0002Zb-3l for 65209@debbugs.gnu.org; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:51:59 -0400 Original-Received: from pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 0A37080087; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:51:47 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=iro.umontreal.ca; s=mail; t=1692795105; bh=FmESCkhxKCJe3bw4sOwGxTvg9FIjojI9XETbpTHwxyg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=ZnYe0tACw6JLgBZGA/KkbDhtkQF+Ad+Fr+IzLiXrzmuvNMRZrd86LbH/uHdH2/2we QmqLMH20Mdlh6kVT+R8U1q538E5gtOFUTtpMIJxD8XLGU64mx7DRQm6/Q2LK7NUVZC 3H1IShuonGTpNU9GuBcnFJZAkwxZ0lbGN8X/eijNlF5fcwCCW+GzByjDyI18Yx6Cs9 B71XbisqomUT1aFgXKWthQvTYVoTQIeNQ+0lQ4w6Vx2rf23qCu7Qin5BiH/me64JHF 503Aw4QZhA5Oj/XoF5Mh2l9RJs1DP/RXXkW0qwwAUlD/xcPQpbsJ3QIjV2xM9NAtkC fdWfw2qGjlRCw== Original-Received: from mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (unknown [172.31.2.1]) by pmg2.iro.umontreal.ca (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B9E00802BB; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:51:45 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from pastel (unknown [104.247.227.249]) by mail01.iro.umontreal.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8B0FA1202D0; Wed, 23 Aug 2023 08:51:45 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <83fs4arnr1.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 23 Aug 2023 14:39:46 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:268238 Archived-At: > (TBH, the first one is almost self-evident, and I find nothing > surprising or unexpected in it.) A more corner case is: (defvar-local my-foo :default) (with-temp-buffer (let ((my-foo :global-let)) (with-temp-buffer (setq my-foo :set) (list my-foo (with-temp-buffer my-foo))))) vs (defvar-local my-foo :default) (with-temp-buffer (let ((my-foo :global-let)) (setq my-foo :set) (list my-foo (with-temp-buffer my-foo)))) IIRC this is done purposefully (the code has to work harder to get this semantics), but not really documented, and I can't offhand give you a good reason for that semantics. Stefan