From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: goncholden via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#55862: Removing indent-tabs-mode set to t by default Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:44:27 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83h74u4csf.fsf@gnu.org> <8e7a8804-681f-200e-3c9b-c4947d059fe5@yandex.ru> <83edzx3jpz.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: goncholden Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16702"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 55862@debbugs.gnu.org, dgutov@yandex.ru To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 09 20:47:51 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nzNCA-0004Ab-Sc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 20:47:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43448 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzNC9-0005eq-FP for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:47542) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLHK-0004Bz-Ev for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]:53672) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLHJ-0005wv-U8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:45:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLHJ-0005K0-Se for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:45:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: goncholden Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:45:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 55862 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 55862-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B55862.165479308220403 (code B ref 55862); Thu, 09 Jun 2022 16:45:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 55862) by debbugs.gnu.org; 9 Jun 2022 16:44:42 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47569 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLGz-0005J0-O7 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:44:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-4319.protonmail.ch ([185.70.43.19]:61495) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1nzLGx-0005Il-1q for 55862@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 09 Jun 2022 12:44:40 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1654793073; x=1655052273; bh=8Bufx4fHjmmYwdZZxZtq3DjPpDFRqbknc0ZdT6BbvEo=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Reply-To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To: Feedback-ID:Message-ID; b=Ir/ELpLG+ReCJDyT0nCIh+qkT9wUknFHdffWblHk/OrMXozgdyfGmszHTW0kiyJv3 s5PNl/gJylyyKN0rqw3zHhKewNexLP3pLOhzudh7InTMpbbkrFLj/8VuXqLZb1uKGu kVaEKUkaG5l0pSKaGgRv5OAeVLLRHV/CLHUrLRQdzP4g6M/N1ZrpdLJPG4NH1FzqCt XQZWHr5nfofuNX2B2hwtr4/KQwaueA5oX8HaFjaSPvA08wrEPus2nnoVnLu0bPz2nm Dnyw+MGmYJt58MixmmHsuH66krg7s5cGI/j3naXzqFqz43qsBzAyhxyzVG1mWQcVpt +NXQiJlYuLz1w== In-Reply-To: <83edzx3jpz.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 43053548:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" X-ACL-Warn: , goncholden Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:234147 Archived-At: ------- Original Message ------- On Friday, June 10th, 2022 at 4:06 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2022 14:21:33 +0000 > > From: goncholden goncholden@protonmail.com > > Cc: Eli Zaretskii eliz@gnu.org, 55862@debbugs.gnu.org > > > > This has been a continual problem with emacs as it mostly caters for pa= ssed-over old folks stuck in the eigthies. > > > The crowd of youngsters from 2020s are welcome to come aboard in their > masses and take over from the old farts. The problem occurs mainly because tab widths are not consistent. As is kno= wn, tab widths relate directly with spaces, but that information is lost.