From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Spencer Baugh Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#63469: 29.0.90; project.el doesn't add menu-bar entries Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 10:30:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <834jod1lvc.fsf@gnu.org> <83o7mkz2ap.fsf@gnu.org> <83sfbvxkj3.fsf@gnu.org> <3d97111e-794d-eeef-73b0-ee3f6f5f15d5@gutov.dev> <83jzx6w2bg.fsf@gnu.org> <6a3eed52-3248-74f9-bcaf-bf12660ae0ed@gutov.dev> <83h6savsz4.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14882"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Dmitry Gutov , 63469@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 18 16:32:17 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pzefw-0003et-PB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 16:32:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzefk-0006Jx-U0; Thu, 18 May 2023 10:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzefj-0006IU-H2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 10:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pzefh-0000tT-Tk for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 10:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pzefh-0003uP-OB for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 10:32:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Spencer Baugh Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 14:32:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 63469 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs Original-Received: via spool by 63469-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B63469.168442026814955 (code B ref 63469); Thu, 18 May 2023 14:32:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 63469) by debbugs.gnu.org; 18 May 2023 14:31:08 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54031 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pzeep-0003t9-Pj for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 10:31:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mxout5.mail.janestreet.com ([64.215.233.18]:54599) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1pzeem-0003sb-JV for 63469@debbugs.gnu.org; Thu, 18 May 2023 10:31:06 -0400 In-Reply-To: <83h6savsz4.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Thu, 18 May 2023 13:23:11 +0300") X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:261935 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> Date: Thu, 18 May 2023 12:49:48 +0300 >> Cc: sbaugh@janestreet.com, 63469@debbugs.gnu.org >> From: Dmitry Gutov >> >> >> I think there should be either one or another. Or there will be too much >> >> of them. >> > >> > Why? what's wrong with having both? >> >> I think this will be the only example of menu entries present in several >> submenus, won't it? > > I think so, yes. But that's not a disadvantage, either. > >> > The advantage of having both is that these items will be more >> > discoverable, and support both discovery through the related >> > functionality and through Package itself. >> >> My objection is not a strong one. If people really find it useful to >> have both, so be it. But is sounds like an overkill. > > Many people think menu bar in Emacs are overkill (and turn it off), > but we disagree and provide the menu bar anyway. We could add the split menu items first and add the consolidated menu later if there is demand. No reason that we have to settle the question on whether to also have a consolidated menu now, if we're already in agreement to at least have split menu items.