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From: Spencer Baugh <sbaugh@janestreet.com>
To: Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com>
Cc: sbaugh@catern.com, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>, 65902@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#65902: 29.0.92; emacsclient-mail.desktop fails due to complicated escaping
Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2023 16:00:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ierr0n1aln7.fsf@janestreet.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <66a6c09e-3b61-d913-5638-4c804fb826f6@gmail.com> (Jim Porter's message of "Wed, 13 Sep 2023 12:33:01 -0700")

Jim Porter <jporterbugs@gmail.com> writes:

> On 9/13/2023 12:13 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
>> And I don't understand why we need to add any options to Emacs itself,
>> btw.  The suggestion to have some "symmetry" here was one of the
>> reasons that discussion got nowhere.  So let's learn from that
>> mistake, at least.
>
> There's a practical benefit to this. If you have $EDITOR set in your
> environment to something like "emacsclient --alternate-editor=emacs",
> then it would be nice if you could say this:
>
>   $EDITOR --apply some-func arg1 arg2
>
> and have it do the same thing whether or not there was already an
> Emacs server running. The symmetry between the two commands (plus
> proper argument forwarding) would make that work.

This already works out of the box with --alternate-editor='', no need
for any argument forwarding, and no need for support for this argument
in Emacs itself.

It doesn't work with --alternate-editor=emacs, but I think that is OK.
I think the alternate-editor='' configuration is far more common, and
that works just fine.

And we have not before done any special casing for forwarding arguments
from emacsclient to alternate-editor=emacs, so I don't think there's any
reason to start now.  (I personally think that alternate-editor=emacs is
somewhat ill-advised, since it doesn't ensure that the server gets
started)

That being said, supporting --apply in Emacs itself is fine with me,
although it's not strictly necessary since in Emacs itself,
--apply func --
is basically equivalent to
--eval (apply func command-line-args-left)

(This doesn't work in emacsclient, and would be very difficult to
support, so --apply is necessary for emacsclient)

> However, if people can't agree, then we could probably drop that
> part. To me, it sounds like people *do* agree that this would be good
> to have though.

I'm fine either way.





  reply	other threads:[~2023-09-13 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <fe2cc764-86c6-4840-80b7-8f3a3778b374@email.android.com>
2023-09-13 14:50 ` bug#65902: 29.0.92; emacsclient-mail.desktop fails due to complicated escaping Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-13 15:01   ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-13 15:23   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-09-13 16:19     ` Jim Porter
2023-09-13 19:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-13 19:33       ` Jim Porter
2023-09-13 20:00         ` Spencer Baugh [this message]
2023-09-13 20:16           ` Jim Porter
2023-09-14  5:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-14 11:03           ` sbaugh
2023-09-14 11:18             ` sbaugh
2023-09-14 11:35             ` sbaugh
2023-09-14 13:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-14 14:04               ` Spencer Baugh
2023-09-14 14:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-14 19:16               ` Jim Porter
2023-09-15  5:33                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 13:43           ` Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
2023-09-16 14:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 15:54               ` Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors
     [not found] <80d8aeb0-c9f1-410f-b83d-60f83ca5b3af@email.android.com>
2023-09-14 14:57 ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-14 15:10   ` Spencer Baugh
2023-09-15  6:29     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-22  1:36       ` sbaugh
2023-09-22  6:36         ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-23 20:24           ` sbaugh
2023-09-24  5:18             ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-24 14:20               ` sbaugh
2023-10-21 15:20                 ` sbaugh
2023-10-22  5:27                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-22 14:15                     ` sbaugh
2023-10-22 16:09                       ` Andreas Schwab
2023-10-22 19:53                         ` sbaugh
2023-10-23 16:38                           ` Andreas Schwab
2023-10-23 16:52                           ` Jim Porter
2023-10-24 16:27                             ` sbaugh
2023-10-29 12:20                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-10-22  5:39                   ` Jim Porter
2023-09-22  7:05         ` Stefan Kangas
2023-09-22  7:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-22  9:29             ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-22 11:32               ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-22 12:37                 ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-22 12:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-22 13:23                     ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-22 14:51                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-22 14:52                         ` Andreas Schwab
2023-09-13  2:24 sbaugh
2023-09-13  2:30 ` sbaugh
2023-09-13  3:46   ` Jim Porter
2023-09-13  8:00     ` Robert Pluim
2023-09-13 13:06       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-13 14:22         ` Robert Pluim
2023-09-13 12:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-13 12:57     ` sbaugh
2023-09-13 12:41   ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-13 13:01     ` sbaugh
2023-09-13 13:26       ` Eli Zaretskii
2023-09-16 13:30         ` Björn Bidar via Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors

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