From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Heime via "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65348: INITIAL-INPUT in completing-read repeats same entry twice consecutively Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:27:21 +0000 Message-ID: References: <83o7j0vd26.fsf@gnu.org> <838ra4vayd.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: Heime Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1970"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, Christopher Dimech , 65348@debbugs.gnu.org, drew.adams@oracle.com To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 21 15:28:09 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qY4wz-0000Ep-14 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 15:28:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qY4wr-0004ut-Ns; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:28:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qY4wq-0004uk-33 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:28:00 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:5::43]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qY4wp-0006lm-R9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:27:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qY4ws-0007C4-0l for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:28:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Heime Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:28:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 65348 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: notabug Original-Received: via spool by 65348-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B65348.169262445427615 (code B ref 65348); Mon, 21 Aug 2023 13:28:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 65348) by debbugs.gnu.org; 21 Aug 2023 13:27:34 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55863 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qY4wP-0007BI-Rx for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:27:34 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-40132.protonmail.ch ([185.70.40.132]:30111) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1qY4wN-0007B4-Cm for 65348@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 21 Aug 2023 09:27:32 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=protonmail.com; s=protonmail3; t=1692624442; x=1692883642; bh=RHOTcARjsnEVyBA9ti9fuBBOYc4r/8OHoRvjBVwY7FY=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=q7tYsbGVIPJl7mDJDV/IG97UP4sQfiAYC39PdScpWGqpw1uTyBH5oWY9IrynKeZeB Uo0rMhbGYXJWY+bhUBrRQUH5WbdxXfNLnYAmHwL4R6A5xrHmFPzGiPK4WwHf81dh/a hNQz6mlJSBlc1a5pBem4SGjy+R/lt12lubxmF/fXHx+eaENdK30dS+PvxguYK/2ztD aNI92ekoSuYQ4oxy8EuIpZ/8DqP3d0lHgrsFMrjTW2rV4bo+Z+kIgBDHNfS1P26NwQ zuQEUF+msgEQRUAwgqK5Vq32ju/XxmuRjXUYrlh4IaXGWIsgpzIUGxU+Y+LbBQZVLd q4Wx2uOJOKquw== In-Reply-To: <838ra4vayd.fsf@gnu.org> Feedback-ID: 57735886:user:proton X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:268096 Archived-At: Sent with Proton Mail secure email. ------- Original Message ------- On Tuesday, August 22nd, 2023 at 12:25 AM, Eli Zaretskii wro= te: > > From: Christopher Dimech dimech@gmx.com > > Cc: michael_heerdegen@web.de, 65348@debbugs.gnu.org, > > heimeborgia@protonmail.com, drew.adams@oracle.com > > Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2023 14:07:07 +0200 > >=20 > > > There are no plans to remove INITIAL-INPUT, if that's what you are > > > asking. We cannot possibly remove it, ever. The argument is not > > > deprecated; its use is "deprecated" (a.k.a. "discouraged"), that's > > > all. > >=20 > > INITIAL-INPUT is basically meant for prefilling the minibuffer with an = entry. >=20 >=20 > Yes. >=20 > > Do not see anything to encourage or discourage. >=20 >=20 > The doc string and the manual explain this. >=20 > > Perhaps renaming it would be more appropriate to describe what > > actually happens ? >=20 >=20 > I see no reason to rename, as the current name describes the purpose > quite well. Consequently, its _use_ should not be discouraged. It is for the person=20 calling the function to decide whether it is appropriate for their package. Is prefilling the minibuffer wrong as matter of principle ? Or just that= =20 on occasions it is not useful ?