From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21953: Eliminate warnings in the emacs-25 release branch Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:10:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <081tbn5g02.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83d1v79mfz.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1448306080 19569 80.91.229.3 (23 Nov 2015 19:14:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:14:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 21953@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 23 20:14:30 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wX0-0005e5-1b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 20:12:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34177 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wX0-0005hC-S9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:12:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51365) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wWx-0005gv-Gb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:12:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wWw-0007b6-Ku for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:12:03 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:60150) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wWw-0007ax-HP for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:12:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wWw-0004IT-5R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:12:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:12:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 21953 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 21953-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B21953.144830586516427 (code B ref 21953); Mon, 23 Nov 2015 19:12:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 21953) by debbugs.gnu.org; 23 Nov 2015 19:11:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49857 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wW0-0004Gs-E2 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:11:04 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41119) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wVx-0004GX-RX for 21953@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:11:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wVx-0007S4-7E for 21953@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:11:01 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:42862) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wVx-0007S0-49 for 21953@debbugs.gnu.org; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:11:01 -0500 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1a0wVw-0001Fv-3z; Mon, 23 Nov 2015 14:11:00 -0500 X-Spook: Environmental terrorist Cyber Command Fortezza X-Ran: ;=T8IG|\CRRcPT;M1^!42V5F.!Jig'hvdm6qdF9w?P%E (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Wed, 18 Nov 2015 20:44:48 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:109143 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > I agree that we cannot silence or solve all of them, but we should be > able to do that with most of them. I'm no fan of compilation warnings and have done my bit to remove them over the years. There was a brief glorious period a long time ago when there were none, but it did not last, and I doubt it will return. Actually really removing all warnings will require changes of a scale and nature that are incompatible (IMO) with a release branch, and break backwards compatibility all over the place. There may be a handful of issues that are "real" and can be fixed simply, but most of these are about relatively deep changes in Emacs infrastructure (eg prep for lexical binding) for which the codebase hasn't been entirely updated. Slapping with-no-warnings all over the place would be pointless at best, frankly harmful since it just covers the issue up without dealing with it (might as well just set byte-compile-warnings = nil in the Makefile for all the good it would do). In any case, .elc files are pre-built in release tarfiles, so people building releases don't even see these warnings. So making it a release goal doesn't make sense to me.