From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kevin Rodgers Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#4960: 23.1.50; Please provide access to the tour on the Help menu; preferably ship it also Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:53:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87ws1lzksg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> Reply-To: Kevin Rodgers , 4960@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258715398 9802 80.91.229.12 (20 Nov 2009 11:09:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:09:58 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 20 12:09:51 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NBRN6-00061x-0h for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 12:09:49 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35370 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBRN5-0002rY-D3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:09:47 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBRKs-00016b-Jw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:07:30 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBRKm-00012e-Vp for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:07:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46500 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBRKm-00012E-GH for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:07:24 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:36801) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NBRKl-0003po-S3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:07:24 -0500 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAKB7LgN029256; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:07:21 -0800 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id nAKB04wM027874; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:00:04 -0800 Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 03:00:04 -0800 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Kevin Rodgers Original-Sender: news Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs 2Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:00:04 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 4960 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B.125871458227780 (code B ref -1); Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:00:04 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 20 Nov 2009 10:56:22 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org (lists.gnu.org [199.232.76.165]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id nAKAuKFS027777 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:56:21 -0800 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBRA4-0005jH-42 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:56:20 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NBR9y-0005gp-6p for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:56:18 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=32947 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NBR9x-0005gY-SE for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:56:13 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:51454) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NBR9x-0002Dc-4K for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:56:13 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.50) id 1NBR8C-0003fP-3y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:54:24 +0100 Original-Received: from c-71-237-24-138.hsd1.co.comcast.net ([71.237.24.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:54:24 +0100 Original-Received: from kevin.d.rodgers by c-71-237-24-138.hsd1.co.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 20 Nov 2009 11:54:24 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-71-237-24-138.hsd1.co.comcast.net User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) In-Reply-To: <87ws1lzksg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Fri, 20 Nov 2009 06:07:29 -0500 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32756 Archived-At: Juri Linkov wrote: > The Web Guided Tour is an advertisement of Emacs features. > It doesn't provide any help. So the "Help" menu is not appropriate. > We could create a new menu "Ads" ;-) > > BTW, I noticed that the About screen doesn't say that the link > will start the browser (like it says on the startup screen). > Here is a fix: > > Index: lisp/startup.el > =================================================================== > RCS file: /sources/emacs/emacs/lisp/startup.el,v > retrieving revision 1.550 > diff -u -r1.550 startup.el > --- lisp/startup.el 6 Nov 2009 05:16:28 -0000 1.550 > +++ lisp/startup.el 20 Nov 2009 09:31:21 -0000 > @@ -1371,7 +1371,7 @@ > :link ("Emacs Guided Tour" > (lambda (button) (browse-url "http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/tour/")) > "Browse http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/tour/") > - "\tSee an overview of the many facilities of GNU Emacs" > + "\tSee an overview of Emacs facilities at gnu.org" > )) > "A list of texts to show in the middle part of the About screen. > Each element in the list should be a list of strings or pairs Although I appreciate the connotation of "facilities", I think "features" would be better understood by curious new users. And if you want to emphasize that the button is a link to the World Wide Web, why not "http://www.gnu.org" instead of just "gnu.org"? -- Kevin Rodgers Denver, Colorado, USA