From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Daniel Ortmann Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: html / emacs / email / w3 / gnus: 0xa0 and 0x0a both used as newlines Date: 24 Sep 2004 09:03:13 -0500 Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1096034688 7817 80.91.229.6 (24 Sep 2004 14:04:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 14:04:48 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 24 16:04:25 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CAqgS-0006aL-00 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 16:04:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CAqmX-0008Ss-TI for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:10:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CAqmE-0008Jg-46 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:10:22 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.33) id 1CAqmC-0008J2-Tw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:10:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CAqmC-0008Is-Sm for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:10:20 -0400 Original-Received: from [147.145.40.20] (helo=mail0.lsil.com) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1CAqfX-0002uo-M5 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 10:03:28 -0400 Original-Received: from milmhbs0.lsil.com (mhbs.lsil.com [147.145.1.30]) by mail0.lsil.com (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i8OE29cq006175 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from rm10.lsil.com (rm10.lsil.com [147.145.140.210]) by milmhbs0.lsil.com (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id i8OE3HAk023522 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 07:03:17 -0700 Original-Received: from localhost (rm140pc119 [147.145.140.119]) by rm10.lsil.com (8.11.6+Sun/8.10.2) with ESMTP id i8OE3Db09324 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:03:16 -0500 (CDT) Original-Received: from dortmann by localhost with local (Exim 4.34) id 1CAqfK-0004aa-4R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 09:03:14 -0500 Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 79 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.39 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:9072 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.bugs:9072 This bug report will be sent to the Free Software Foundation, not to your local site managers! Please write in English, because the Emacs maintainers do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org mailing list, and to the gnu.emacs.bug news group. In GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i386-pc-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d scroll bars) of 2004-08-03 on raven, modified by Debian configured using `configure '--build=i386-linux' '--host=i386-linux' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var/lib' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=athena' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -g -O2' 'build_alias=i386-linux' 'host_alias=i386-linux'' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: nil value of $LC_CTYPE: nil value of $LC_MESSAGES: nil value of $LC_MONETARY: nil value of $LC_NUMERIC: nil value of $LC_TIME: nil value of $LANG: nil locale-coding-system: nil default-enable-multibyte-characters: t Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of the bug: Hello, Many emails are now using 0xa0 as a newline character (at least as rendered by w3 under gnus and as sent by messages using "R" for Reply). Often the normal newline 0x0a occurs above and below the 0xa0 line. E.g. some text. 0x0a 0xa0 0x0a Some other text. These strange line separators break C-x C-o (delete-black-lines), C-q (fill-paragraph), as well as all other whitespace-related functionality. What is the solution? Should w3 render 0xa0 as 0x0a? Should 0xa0 be treated as [[:space:]]??? (dangerous?) Or is their some other solution? It's difficult to "fix" (i.e. compensate for) infinite broken emailers. Thanks! Recent input: C-n C-n C-n C-v C-v c c c c C-x k N P C-x o C-n C-SPC C-n C-n C-n C-n C-x n n M-x h e x l - m o y C-p C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-p C-a C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-f C-b C-b C-b C-b C-b C-f C-f C-f C-b C-b C-b C-f C-f C-c C-c C-x n w C-l C-x o M-u M-u C-p C-p Recent messages: Parsed 100% of 6876...done Unknown directive in stylesheet: @font-face Unknown directive in stylesheet: @page Drawing... done Mark set Invalid face text property value: minibuffer-prompt [27 times] Auto-saving...done Loading emacsbug...done Invalid face text property value: minibuffer-prompt [314 times] -- Daniel Ortmann, LSI Logic, 3425 40th Av NW, Suite 200, Rochester MN 55901 work: Daniel.Ortmann@lsil.com / 507.535.3861 / 63861 int / 8012.3861 gdds home: dortmann@charter.net 507.288.7732, 2414 30Av NW #D, Rochester MN 55901 gpg/pgp public key: http://wwwkeys.us.pgp.net jabber: daniel_ortmann@jabber.org / dortmann@jabber.co.lsil.com