From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Schierl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: Re: HOW CAN I STOP THIS NOVICE MODE STUFF? Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:56:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: <476ED79F.1000306@gmail.com> <873atsjiqk.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> Reply-To: schierlm@gmx.de NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1198544213 32202 80.91.229.12 (25 Dec 2007 00:56:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:56:53 +0000 (UTC) To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 25 01:57:06 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J6y6S-0006UT-Pr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 01:57:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J6y68-0006II-Do for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:56:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J6y5s-0006Bi-V3 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:56:29 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J6y5r-0006Az-64 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:56:28 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J6y5q-0006Ar-Tw for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J6y5q-00089o-KL for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2007 19:56:26 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1J6y5e-0007Xs-L9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:56:14 +0000 Original-Received: from p549b8344.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([84.155.131.68]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:56:14 +0000 Original-Received: from schierlm by p549b8344.dip0.t-ipconnect.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Dec 2007 00:56:14 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 21 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: p549b8344.dip0.t-ipconnect.de User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.14.1 X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:17235 Archived-At: On Mon, 24 Dec 2007 15:00:03 +0100, Bastien wrote: > PS: not being able to reach the documentation pages for local variables > does not prove Emacs should behave as if you were an expert. Grin. And BTW you could copy the buffer if you were an expert: M-x toggle-debug-on-quit and then just press C-g at the prompt. Copy the stuff and [c]ontinue from the Lisp debugger. HAND Michael -- #!/usr/bin/perl -I' # tekscribble.pl - start in an xterm and scribble with mouse $|=1;$g="\35";sub g{getc}sub p{print@_}system"stty -icanon";p"\233?38h";for(;;){ p"$g\33\32";$_=g;$x=g;$X=g;$y=g;$Y=g;last if/q/;$k=$y.chr((ord$Y)+64).$x.chr(( ord$X)+32);p"\33\14"if/c/;p$g.(/ì/?$l:$k).$k;$l=$k;}p"\33\3";system"stty icanon"