From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#18693: 25.0.50; backup user options Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:28:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1413077446 15106 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2014 01:30:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:30:46 +0000 (UTC) To: 18693@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 12 03:30:39 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7zZ-0006sm-R9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 03:30:37 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55734 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7zZ-00074O-Bj for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57103) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7zJ-0006z1-0Z for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:30:31 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7z5-0004BL-2c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:30:20 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:49780) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7z5-0004BD-0E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:30:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7z3-0007L9-K0 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:30:05 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:30:05 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 18693 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.141307734728082 (code B ref -1); Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:30:05 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 12 Oct 2014 01:29:07 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41341 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7y6-0007Is-VX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:29:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:55263) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7y5-0007IC-AX for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:29:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7xp-0003kL-Qz for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:29:00 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:44735) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7xp-0003kH-NP for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56946) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7xg-0006nr-Vn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7xY-0003h5-3R for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:28:40 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:19417) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Xd7xX-0003gu-Th for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 21:28:32 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s9C1SSbI025572 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:28:29 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s9C1SRPw002102 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:28:28 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0020.oracle.com (abhmp0020.oracle.com [141.146.116.26]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s9C1SRP2002098 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:28:27 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8.2 (807160) [OL 12.0.6691.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:94428 There are several user options for customizing file backups (`backup-by-*'). Wading through the doc strings or Customize buffers for them, it seems that they could all be consolidated under option `make-backup-files', by letting different non-nil values provide the different backup behaviors. To be clear: I really don't care about this. Consider it feedback that it seems that Emacs is making things unnecessarily complicated for users, here, and it should be possible to do things better. If no one wants to do that, fine. Also, things have been like this since at least Emacs 20, and users already have various `backup-by-*' options in their custom or init files. So if this were simplified then some remapping/aliasing would need to happen. In GNU Emacs 25.0.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2014-10-06 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 118063 monnier@iro.umontreal.ca-20141006174756-y7ha091r491l1i= jw Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --enable-checking=3Dyes,glyphs 'CFLAGS=3D-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1'