From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Glenn Morris Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#26952: 25.1; loops eating all memory while yanking big rectangle Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 21:15:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87zie8gyu4.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83h90fq269.fsf@gnu.org> <87vaovh1db.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <8360gvpfxr.fsf@gnu.org> <87shjzgwgk.fsf@users.sourceforge.net> <83y3tqnsab.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgpqng0i.fsf@gnu.org> <83inkto7yz.fsf@gnu.org> <83lgplkm64.fsf@gnu.org> <4dacb636-0cae-9cb6-8491-2630e763d956@cs.ucla.edu> <83a860lupf.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1495847775 26292 195.159.176.226 (27 May 2017 01:16:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 01:16:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus (www.gnus.org), GNU Emacs (www.gnu.org/software/emacs/) Cc: jwiegley@gmail.com, Paul Eggert , 26952@debbugs.gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat May 27 03:16:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKw-0006e8-Mu for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 27 May 2017 03:16:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39091 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKy-0007ZV-VM for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:16:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47608) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKq-0007YC-MQ for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:16:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKp-0008Mb-6W for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:16:04 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.43]:37087) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKo-0008MT-Mc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:16:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKo-0007yb-Gn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:16:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org In-Reply-To: Resent-From: Glenn Morris Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 01:16:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 26952 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 26952-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B26952.149584774730632 (code B ref 26952); Sat, 27 May 2017 01:16:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 26952) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 May 2017 01:15:47 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39764 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKY-0007xy-MG for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:56561) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKX-0007xm-8O for 26952@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKR-0008Gy-2C for 26952@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:15:39 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53259) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKN-0008Fq-2p; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: from rgm by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1dEQKK-0001c0-TY; Fri, 26 May 2017 21:15:32 -0400 X-Spook: Chemical agent Federal Aviation Administration Chemical X-Ran: wTFBTJbp0X]O{TY%8wnA8D,-fvh^jc8D\I@T)+e0h4ww5zCxE)]a1~5D8/!xxqV.fH6we& X-Hue: black X-Attribution: GM X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:132903 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> Cc: 26952@debbugs.gnu.org, pot@gnu.org, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net >> From: Paul Eggert >> Date: Thu, 25 May 2017 09:19:50 -0700 >> >> We can publish 26.1 earlier if we don't run it through our leisurely six >> month test period. > > There's no leisure in our pretests. We need to wait until the bug > reports come in after each pretest tarball, that's all. It takes time > for the reports to come in because Emacs is a very large package that > supports many different use patterns. Idle speculation: If a ~ six month testing process doesn't show up the fairly fundamental memory issues that cropped up in both 25.1 and 25.2 soon after release, then perhaps it isn't time well spent. Perhaps people would be better served by more frequent, smaller releases. I have the feeling (not backed up by any data) that pretest use is declining, with people just using master or releases. Perhaps switching things around so that releases come from master (and development happens on a branch) would help, but maybe not.