From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#14801: 24.3.50; Document monitor attributes (e.g., `workarea' and `mm-size') Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 13:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1373056330 12859 80.91.229.3 (5 Jul 2013 20:32:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 20:32:10 +0000 (UTC) To: 14801@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 05 22:32:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCfn-0000rq-Nc for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 22:32:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51124 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCfn-0000MC-CB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:32:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60865) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCfj-0000Lr-JA for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:32:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCfi-0005ws-Ly for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:32:03 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:38500) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCfi-0005wm-Iq for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:32:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCfi-0006ms-7U for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:32:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 05 Jul 2013 20:32:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: report 14801 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: X-Debbugs-Original-To: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Received: via spool by submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B.137305627125987 (code B ref -1); Fri, 05 Jul 2013 20:32:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at submit) by debbugs.gnu.org; 5 Jul 2013 20:31:11 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:32816 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCes-0006l3-UR for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:31:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58801) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCeq-0006km-H1 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:31:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCej-0005iZ-Q9 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:31:03 -0400 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::11]:49868) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCej-0005iV-N5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60497) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCei-0008KP-BS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:31:01 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCeh-0005hI-2E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:31:00 -0400 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:33376) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UvCeg-0005gK-M6 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 05 Jul 2013 16:30:58 -0400 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.1) with ESMTP id r65KUufS003881 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 20:30:57 GMT Original-Received: from aserz7021.oracle.com (aserz7021.oracle.com [141.146.126.230]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r65KUuAU013914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 20:30:56 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt106.oracle.com (abhmt106.oracle.com [141.146.116.58]) by aserz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r65KUt6M029823 for ; Fri, 5 Jul 2013 20:30:55 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.7 (607090) [OL 12.0.6668.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:75960 Archived-At: Monitor attributes are partially documented in `C-h f display-monitor-attributes-list'. They should also be (fully) documented in the Elisp manual. Even in the doc string of d-m-a-l, the description is incomplete and needs to be filled out. Attribute `workareas' is described only in terms of "the workarea". There is no explanation of what is meant by "workarea" (which should presumably be two words, BTW). Attribute `mm-size' is described only as "the width and height in millimeters". It's all very nice to say what the units are, but what is it that is being measured? The width & height of what? If it is the "work area" (whatever that might be) then say so explicitly. Beyond all this, what on Earth IS a monitor "attribute"? Is it supposed to be the same thing as a frame parameter? The Elisp manual covers file attributes and face attributes. And it mentions terminal attributes (in passing - there is no explanation or description of them), but it is silent about monitor attributes. The doc for this feature or collection of features (?) is hopelessly incomplete and confused. One can only make wild guesses as to what is meant and what this is all about. In GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (i686-pc-mingw32) of 2013-07-01 on LEG570 Bzr revision: 113246 lekktu@gmail.com-20130701165437-ea20s94hqwp3ttaj Windowing system distributor `Microsoft Corp.', version 6.1.7601 Configured using: `configure --prefix=3D/c/usr --enable-checking CFLAGS=3D'-O0 -g3' CPPFLAGS=3D'-DGLYPH_DEBUG=3D1 -I/c/usr/include''