From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12507: [debbugs-tracker] Processed: severity 12507 wishlist Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 08:45:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <87bogubqjy.fsf@gnu.org> <873925ebpd.fsf@gnu.org> <87363ff7qp.fsf@gnus.org> <11ee80e5-6d98-4a1f-93c8-babb6da003f3@default> <87r1qxrgs1.fsf@gnus.org> <87v9g52dvz.fsf@red-bean.com> <875z7x889d.fsf@red-bean.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39407"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , Chong Yidong , 12507@debbugs.gnu.org To: Karl Fogel Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 29 17:46:26 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kNHph-000A84-W3 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Tue, 29 Sep 2020 15:45:19 +0000 Original-Received: from pps.filterd (aserp3030.oracle.com [127.0.0.1]) by aserp3030.oracle.com (8.16.0.42/8.16.0.42) with SMTP id 08TFUrl6176785; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 15:45:19 GMT Original-Received: from aserv0121.oracle.com (aserv0121.oracle.com [141.146.126.235]) by aserp3030.oracle.com with ESMTP id 33uv2e3379-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 29 Sep 2020 15:45:19 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0006.oracle.com (abhmp0006.oracle.com [141.146.116.12]) by aserv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 08TFjIZK027061; Tue, 29 Sep 2020 15:45:18 GMT In-Reply-To: <875z7x889d.fsf@red-bean.com> X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.5056.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9759 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 phishscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 malwarescore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 mlxscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009290135 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9759 signatures=668680 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 malwarescore=0 mlxscore=0 phishscore=0 suspectscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 clxscore=1015 priorityscore=1501 impostorscore=0 lowpriorityscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2006250000 definitions=main-2009290135 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:189277 Archived-At: > >What's wrong with the obvious, simple solution to the > >real, recognized problem of no backups for bookmark > >files: use `write-file'? That's the first question > >to ask and answer, no? >=20 > I can't think of any reason now. I have a vague memory that there *was* = a > specific reason, but if there was, I failed to document adequately at the > time and have been unable to recover it now. >=20 > Eli helpfully linked to Richard's message > (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs- > devel/2005- > 05/msg01376.html__;!!GqivPVa7Brio!OesHeMbHNKqFeUCyyW2WJ0UeXBZjSXngBYlvA1Q= 5G9F > zXXgAa30g7LGrcwolObMB$ ), in which Richard points out that if bookmark vi= sits > the file anyway when reading, then there's nothing to be gained (from the > perspective of saveplace.el interference) from avoiding visiting it when > writing. >=20 > And `bookmark-load' *does* visit the file when reading, so I'm leaning to= ward > just taking your suggestion and reverting to `write-file' -- but this tim= e > leaving better historical breadcrumbs (in comments and/or log messages) i= n > case my vaguely-remembered bug turns out to be real and reappears. >=20 > I will do this as soon as I have time to focus on it and make sure I don'= t > make a silly blunder; that may be several days. Thanks for looking into this, Karl. (No hurry.)