From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#40671: [DOC] modify literal objects Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 08:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: References: <83tv1finob.fsf@gnu.org> <1E9E4C19-37C2-4E24-91B7-8101F9CFBF35@acm.org> <527dc4b5-3176-38b5-f2c1-1483ffc814a1@cs.ucla.edu> <87k12b6sv2.fsf@web.de> <2225099d-16e1-645d-0342-a054da53363f@cs.ucla.edu> <87a7376nv9.fsf@web.de> <99d7a8f9-7732-e1e3-414e-aabbea4433ac@cs.ucla.edu> <87o8rnasfk.fsf@web.de> <9e6c138d-cb9f-6075-34df-a8d1d931343b@cs.ucla.edu> <871rofxbz9.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="105732"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: mattiase@acm.org, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 40671@debbugs.gnu.org, ke.vigouroux@laposte.net To: rms@gnu.org, Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 17:09:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRzx4-000RNR-5C for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:08:28 GMT Original-Received: from userv0121.oracle.com (userv0121.oracle.com [156.151.31.72]) by userp3020.oracle.com with ESMTP id 30k7qxac05-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=OK); Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:08:28 +0000 Original-Received: from abhmp0013.oracle.com (abhmp0013.oracle.com [141.146.116.19]) by userv0121.oracle.com (8.14.4/8.13.8) with ESMTP id 03OF8KAQ002534; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 15:08:20 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.9.1 (1003210) [OL 16.0.4993.0 (x86)] X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9601 signatures=668686 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 mlxscore=0 spamscore=0 mlxlogscore=985 adultscore=0 suspectscore=0 bulkscore=0 phishscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004240120 X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=nai engine=6000 definitions=9601 signatures=668686 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 lowpriorityscore=0 spamscore=0 impostorscore=0 bulkscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 phishscore=0 mlxscore=0 priorityscore=1501 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=0 adultscore=0 malwarescore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.12.0-2003020000 definitions=main-2004240120 X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-Received-From: 209.51.188.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.bugs:178928 Archived-At: > It seems strange to use the terms "constant" and "mutable" to describe > whether modifying its contents is something you had better avoid. > I think people will find that terminology confusing. Normally > "mutable" means that you CAN change it, not that it is OK to change it. Yes. Precisely what I, Michael, and others said. The message should be one of advice/guidance: explaining a gotcha, or at least suggesting what to avoid.