From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Drew Adams Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#16619: 24.3.50; REGRESSION: transparent *Completions* now Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 15:57:58 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1391299101 23468 80.91.229.3 (1 Feb 2014 23:58:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:58:21 +0000 (UTC) To: 16619@debbugs.gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Feb 02 00:58:28 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kS7-0001se-JN for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Feb 2014 00:58:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39673 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kS7-0002hx-AE for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:58:23 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56739) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kRv-0002ha-Ea for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:58:20 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kRm-0007BH-Rb for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:58:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:59654) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kRm-0007B7-Np for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:58:02 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kRm-0004K7-Ce for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:58:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Drew Adams Original-Sender: "Debbugs-submit" Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:58:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 16619 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 16619-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B16619.139129908116610 (code B ref 16619); Sat, 01 Feb 2014 23:58:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 16619) by debbugs.gnu.org; 1 Feb 2014 23:58:01 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:45440 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kRk-0004Jq-U5 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:58:01 -0500 Original-Received: from userp1040.oracle.com ([156.151.31.81]:33163) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1W9kRi-0004Jf-NT for 16619@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 01 Feb 2014 18:57:59 -0500 Original-Received: from ucsinet21.oracle.com (ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93]) by userp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.3.2) with ESMTP id s11NvuMs016375 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK) for <16619@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:57:57 GMT Original-Received: from userz7021.oracle.com (userz7021.oracle.com [156.151.31.85]) by ucsinet21.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s11Nvutv013395 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL) for <16619@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:57:56 GMT Original-Received: from abhmp0018.oracle.com (abhmp0018.oracle.com [141.146.116.24]) by userz7021.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id s11NvuKx013391 for <16619@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sat, 1 Feb 2014 23:57:56 GMT In-Reply-To: X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Oracle Beehive Extensions for Outlook 2.0.1.8 (707110) [OL 12.0.6680.5000 (x86)] X-Source-IP: ucsinet21.oracle.com [156.151.31.93] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:84425 Archived-At: It's even worse than what I reported at first. Other special-display frames that pop up when the minibuffer is active are also transparent. This includes frame *Pp Eval Output* if I do `M-:' while the minibuffer is active (e.g., from `M-x'). =20 (I have `M-:' bound in minibuffer maps to a command that essentially does pp-eval-expression, and *Pp Eval Output* is a special-display buffer because of `special-display-regexps'.) And it includes frame *Backtrace* if I try to use the debugger when the minibuffer is active. However, I discovered something else that might help you solve this mystery. In all cases where I get a transparent frame popped up, the frame that was selected when I invoked a command that used the minibuffer was an ordinary frame, not my standalone minibuffer frame. If I instead first select the minibuffer frame (which is useless for normal use, but worthwhile for this experiment) and I then invoke a command (such as `M-x') from there that activates the minibuffer, then *Completions* is normal - not transparent. So something in this build is acting normal only when the standalone minibuffer frame is selected before minibuffer activation, and popping up transparent frames when another frame is selected before minibuffer activation.