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FWIW and FTR, as the filer of bug #19064, and as I expressed several times in this thread, I strongly object to the changes that have now been made. All of what I said has been ignored. Unfortunate. This is not at all a good fix for the problem reported. And it imposes a very bad behavior more generally - beyond the problem cited. `message' and `minibuffer-message', i.e., writing to the echo area and to the minibuffer, both have their uses when the minibuffer is active. And `y-or-n-p' should continue to use `read-key', not the minibuffer. And `enable-recursive-minibuffers' should not be turned on automatically by `yes-or-no-p'. Instead, if the function calling `yes-or-no-p' has not turned it on then an error should be raised when `yes-or-no-p' tries to use the minibuffer. I'm not aware of any part of this "fix" that's acceptable.